Bid to mute Irish anger

By Kevin Cullen
Globe Columnist / February 22, 2011

The funny thing is that Paddy Doyle was invited to the very thing he was barred from.

“They said the cardinal from Boston wanted to wash me feet,’’ he was saying on the phone, “but it sounded like they wanted to wash their hands of the whole thing, so I said no.’’

Paddy Doyle — survivor of abuse, sexual and otherwise — was in no mood to accommodate the forgiveness-seeking special liturgy convened by the archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Sean O’Malley, or O’Malley’s Irish host, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin, over the weekend. But he went down to the Pro-Cathedral on Dublin’s north-side Sunday afternoon to watch the fuss and bumped into Mary Smith outside.

Mary Smith’s mother was pregnant with her when she was confined to a laundry run by nuns and made to wash her supposed sins away by providing free, forced labour. Mary Smith, later confined to a Magdalen laundry herself, wanted to hand O’Malley a letter, asking him to help the Magdalene survivors, including the ones who fled to Boston.

“So I says to Mary, come with me, and we’ll go in the side door, which is the only door I can get my wheelchair through,’’ Paddy Doyle was saying. “But there were some men, and they wouldn’t let us in. I asked the garda, the policeman there, to help us but he wouldn’t. So there you go. The church and the state in this country are one and the same.’’

While Paddy Doyle was sitting in his wheelchair in Dublin, describing how difficult it is to speak truth to power in Ireland, Ruairi Collins was sitting 3,000 miles away in his Cambridge office, talking about the same thing.

Collins left Ireland for Boston three years ago, just as his country’s economy went bust, just when the Irish government decided to bail out the banks that gambled away the nation’s prosperity, the same government that bailed out the Catholic Church a decade before by forcing taxpayers to pay the settlements for predatory priests and enabling bishops.

They bailed out the bishops, they bailed out the banks, but the ordinary punter left holding the tab is being forced to bail out of Ireland.

Collins was looking forward to Ireland’s general election Friday because he wanted desperately to help throw out the bums who threw him and the rest of his generation out of the country or onto the dole. But then he found out he can’t vote.

Ireland is one of only two European Union nations that doesn’t allow natives living abroad a vote. Dominicans, Brazilians, and Cape Verdeans, whose natives form some of Massachusetts’ largest and most vibrant immigrant communities, can vote abroad. The native Irish, whose assimilated cousins make up the biggest ethnic group in this state, cannot.

“About 30,000 people have left Ireland in the last few months,’’ Collins said. “It’s crazy they don’t have a vote considering they’re the ones most impacted by government policies.’’

Collins, 34, who works for a digital textbook publisher, came across a new online initiative, ballotbox.ie, which is compiling votes from some of the 3.1 million Irish-born immigrants scattered around the globe.

Brian Reynolds, one of ballotbox.ie’s creators, said the site is aiming to get at least 5,000 votes to pressure politicians back home to let some emigrants vote.

“Half the people who have left in recent times are still paying mortgages or left their families back home,’’ Reynolds said from Toronto, where many have gone because with the US immigration system hopelessly outdated it’s almost impossible to stay in this country legally. “It’s really scandalous. The people who want to vote the most can’t.’’

Collins already voted online.

“It’s only symbolic,’’ he said, “but maybe next election it will be for real.’’

Paddy Doyle can only hope.

“The country would be much better off if they had let the emigrants vote,’’ he said. “But that’s what people in power do. They don’t want to give it up. Not to the likes of ordinary people.’’

Kevin Cullen is a Globe columnist. He can be reached at cullen@globe.com

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  1. John of the Ayres family

    Pauline, church, state and government own the people of Ireland; thats why they can abuse us as they please. Ireland is a catholic facist state, no other words for it, all dressed up as democracy. Catholics are evil and while we allow them to remain in Ireland we can only expect more of the same. The Irish people pay for everything, church state and government desire.

  2. I saw the film documentery dear daughter in 2004. the boiling water scene shocked me . inever heard of that one up untill then. but i dont remember a scene where she had her leg split.Some of the scenes had happened in g b but not in the time we were there. example the threat of having to replace a broken statue by standing in its place was one of the lay helpers ways of making us be very carefull of the religous statues. but what struk me in the film was that thay had hair down to thier sholders. the scraps were the crusts of the sandwiches. when the head nun had a visit they tasted buttery i loved getting 1.but those women were really violent.thay thought thay owned us. thats what thay acted like

  3. For the (partial) text of the Sunday Times article referred to by Richard Webster see:

    In an article in the Irish Times on 1st March 1996, Fintan O’Toole wrote:
    Strangely enough, of all the images in Louis Lentin’s superb documentary film on Goldenbridge orphanage, the most disturbing for me was not one of the violent ones – a child deliberately scalded with boiling water or beaten with a club until her whole leg from ankle to hip burst open. We see so much brutality on the screen that most of us, I suppose, have learned how to shield ourselves from it. …etc etc”

    The Sunday Times did not engage in any difficult feat of investigative reporting. They simply interviewed a surgeon who worked in the hospital where children from the Goldenbridge orphanage were treated during the 1950s. The only reason why O’Toole did not check out this information, is that he did not want to know. The same goes for Archbishop Diarmuid Martin today!

    [ The remainder of the Sunday Times article dated 28 April 1996, deals with an allegation (made AFTER the broadcast of ‘Dear Daughter’) that the Sisters of Mercy were responsible for the death of a baby left in their care who had allegedly died of burn injuries. Doctor Prendiville is quoting as saying:

    They didn’t treat burns in St Ultan’s. If the baby died from a burn, there would have to be an inquest.

    The postmortem said the child died of dysentery – which was the kind of illness that St Ultan’s children’s hospital had been set up to treat.

  4. Had all this stayed in ireland it could have been passed of as a case of racial victimisation.also no one could have guessed about all the sexual abuse in the boys prisons.its terrable to hear how chrissys discription of xs is distorted to make out that xeveria was hysterical and charged around lashing out left and right. thats not what i remember. she controlled every thing.she did not show any particular interest in any child . she was a religous fanatic. her reason to live was to destroy each childs character. we had to be humble so much so that we were sure that we were f
    different from others because we were mamifers.in 1954 a child died and the head nun was sent somewhere else. XS became head nun and another nun arrived. thats the year that chrissy came i think. i remember how pleased we were whenbernadineleft. but xs was just as bad

  5. truth will out

    In that documentary Dear Daughter only a couple of those in the film were in goldenbridge up till 1962 after the place changed ,older victims from the 40’s 50’s were never informed about it.

  6. truth will out

    So at last I hear the Aslinn is going to be investigated ,every E-uro they recieved which must be many millions over the years have to be accounted for with recipts shown and names of survivors checked out that they claimed all the funding for, the government set that place up deliberatly offering huge funding which was is a partenership in cohoots together with the Catholic Church to cover the abuse up The government knew none of them at that aislinn have or HAD qualifications for dealing with Trauma and very sick Victims of Industrial Reformatories ,they knew bullying would take place but thats just what they wanted for they thought it would take the blame away from them ,and the Church ,that way Real Victims voices was silenced they made sure only one voice was always heard ,and rewarded that person for carrying out their cowardly dirty work, It is sickening,

  7. This is UK cultural historian Richard Webster, writing about one of the ladies whose feet Archbishop Diarmuid Martin washed on Sunday 20 February. (The Archbishop certainly knows how to pick them!)
    http://www.richardwebster.net/brynestynireland.html

    The Irish story then developed in a manner which paralleled the development of the North Wales story. In 1996 the producer and director, Louis Lentin, made a television documentary about abuse in children’s homes which was shown by RTE, the main public service broadcasting station in Ireland. It focused on the brutal regime which was said to have been operating during the 1950s at St Vincent’s Industrial School, Goldenbridge, one of a network children’s homes or detention centres which were funded by the state and run by the Catholic Church.

    “The documentary featured allegations made against Sister Xavieria, one of the nuns belonging to the Sisters of Mercy order which ran the home. The woman ‘survivor’ at the centre of the film claimed that, on one occasion, she had been caned by Sister Xavieria so severely that the entire side of her leg was split open from her hip to her knee. She says she was treated in the casualty department of the local hospital and believes that she received 80 to 120 stitches.

    “No medical evidence has ever been produced to substantiate this bizarre claim. The surgeon who ran the casualty department at the hospital in question has given evidence which renders it highly unlikely that such an incident ever took place. Apart from anything else, the surgeon points out that caning would not have caused a wound of this kind, which would have required surgical treatment under a general anaesthetic and not stitches in a casualty department. Yet although the evidence suggests that the woman’s memory was a delusion, her testimony was widely believed at the time. In the wake of the broadcast, atrocity stories about Goldenbridge and other industrial schools began to proliferate. [3]”

    3. Sunday Times (Ireland), 28 April 1996, citing the views of the surgeon, J. B. Prendiville.

  8. Pauline Jackson wrote:

    “So perhaps its religions that should be done away with.”

    There;s no “perhaps” about it, Pauline. But then, we have to deal with our own home-grown insane people. Its like having to dig out the weeds from your own garden in order to grow healthy nutritional food. :)

  9. Well i wanted to point out the fact that Christine was 8 years old then. So any beatings on the landing were not done by Xeveria . Bernadine left us there for hours too . She was the one in charge then. all religions seem to have violence as a way of life. it causes harm everywhere.So perhaps its religions that should be done away with.

  10. Human Right's

    has the aislinn been used for Asylum seekers ,?????enhlish lessons ????housing?????anyone know ,because there cant be many survivors from the industrial schools in Dublin out of the total 165,000 since 1930 many are dead, most of the rest live in different parts of the world so never recieve any help ,so who are the survivors in dublin that Herself gets millions in funding for??? >Lets see the list of names she claims for .<Can't be many

  11. Human Right's

    After watching the cruel spectacle outside the Cathedral ,it said everything the government and religious have been pouring millions into the hands of A Mad Woman allowing themselves to run and hide like the cowards they are.

  12. Pauline Jackson wrot:

    “Anyway severia became head nun in 1954. before that the head nun was called bernadine. She is the one that XS inherited the stick from”

    Yes, but Sr. Xeveria (of Goldenbrige Industrial School fame) inherited her sadism from her own Good Catholic parents.

    Anyone can wave a stick about, but not all of us are capable of beating defenceless children with it…

  13. To vote for Paddy to represent people who have been abused please use link below

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/mandate-for-paddy-doyle-to-represent-survivors/ …Kay

  14. Hello dont you think its strange that the newspapers did not try and find survivers from g b when Christine was an inmate. thay interested themselves in so few people that it was bound to be deformed. all the women at that time posted letters Iused to write to my Dad. when the letters got to him in tipperary he paid the postage. ALL we had to do was give them to the inmates who had Visiters coming to see them on sundays. The bread in g b was pre sliced industriel wraped bread . but i always thought that it was the unsold bread because it was ofter green with rot. so I dont know where Chrissy met a breadman. when we broke the green pieces off there were clouds of green smoky rot. the xmas wrapped up was when Bernadine was head nun . we were shown a film of the nuns in africa. and a mother Rily. but when xeveria took over she abilished that because thay stoped us from working as it took up the school and work room. so that was the end of the presents that we had to give back for the Africans. After that it was a brown paper bag with an envelope. and a stamp one sheet of paper to write home. and 2 or three sweets. Ihope that this gives you an idea of the true goldenbridge. Xeveria left in 1963.

  15. When xeveria was in charge of Gb she was fattish. she was a farmers daughter and her sister was working in a missionary in AFRICA two nuns in the same family is a bit weird anyway.But she was very strong because she had a very hot temper. But she wasn’t that stupid. Anyway severia became head nun in 1954. before that the head nun was called bernadine. She is the one that XS inherited the stick from

  16. Hi Pauline, thank yo for your very clear and interesting response. Yes, I agree that children can and usually don’t care about the colour of their peers, not unless their own parents/primary guardians instil such racist attitudes in them. Just to clarify, when I said CB may have been “singled out” in Goldenbridge, I was thinking about the nuns and other adults in charge, not the children.

    I always had the impression that Christine Buckley was put into Goldenbridge at a much age, as a toddler and this impression was formed by what CB told herself. So, perhaps she is a compulsive liar: people in serious Denial usually are, its their way of coping with their own personal trauma, especially in childhood. Also, from what I know about CB personally (having met her myself back in the mid 1990’s, I certainly didn’t get the impression she was a maternal type woman, not at all. She came across to me as one who is a “ball of rage” which, IMO, she still is.

  17. Martha i agree with you there as far as christine is concerned. But you see we kids were surprised by her arrival in there . like all kids we asked questions and there were nasty things said to her . But thats what happened to all new arrivals. it was a terrable shock to every child who had just had thier identidy stoles . with the hair cut first then the bath of jays fluid . Our clothes were taken away and we were given a number . mine was 127 . that was me for nearly 9 years.so yes all this attention could snap someone who has been through all that . did you notice how she always needs to justify her role as a good mother as we have all heard that people who have been abused become abusers. we all have to live with that too . but she defends herself by blocking out others.aas for her colour you know when kids live together thay dont think like that.she did get an oppertunity to have a good job and she did not have to look after herself on the streets.so yes it did get her some attention.

  18. Hello Angry Igrew up in golden bridge at the same time as Christine buckley. cristine arrived in g b when she was eight. we spent years together . i also was sent to the outside school to pass the exams. well i do remember Christine telling me and another girl that she had written a letter to the newspapers. she was all excited but nothing happened . many of us had tried to get help but we were ignored. but we dident say this to her at the time . you know XS was a crazy mistake of a nun but she made sure that no outsiders would be involved when Children showed signs of having been beaten. most of the time it was underneath our clothes. its a bit like the story of rape in the attic . there was only a lowered cieling in which the electric wires were covered. Christine was not a child hero.when i escaped in 1961 cristine did not have scars on her legs nor had she been burnt by boiling water. these things are part of her now. in her interview she talks of laying on the floor of the dormatory well thats new to me and i spent nearly 9 years there .it was a place of pain and bewilderment to most of us . but when XS left Chrissy wrote of the change. she said it changed overnight. there was laughter in the yard. thats supposed to be why she stayed.
    ..

  19. I have just read the two comments above by “Angry”. With regard to Angry’s questioning the validity of Christine Buckley’s claim that she required in the region of one hundred stitches as a result of a beating by Sr. Xavieria, the Head Nun of Goldenbridge at the time (and I well remember all the publicity pertaining to that incident, e.g., Christine Buckley herself appearing on Ireland’s National TV station, RTE News at 6pm – circa the mid 1990’s?).

    Whether this story is true or not, one can be sure that Christine Buckley would have been “singled-out” from her fellow child inmates in Goldenbridge, because of her skin colour (her mother was White and her father a Black Nigerian)so, perhaps she was, quite literally,driven insane at a very early age as a result of her personal experience as a child?

    Who knows? One thing’s for sure, she is not a normal human adult. But then, as Shakespeare said “There is method in madness”.

  20. Dead Man Walking – thank you so much for posting the YouTube and the interview links. Marie Collins was very diplomatic whereas CB came across as someone who didn’t know what she was talking about. I am gobsmacked and astonished at the way Paddy was treated outside the church (or was it the Catherdal?). Who exactly did the dictator (not the garda man) standing by the door think he was talking to? What a patronising son of a cow. Why wasn’t Paddy interviewed on RTE to ask how he felt about the washing of feet and for that matter why wasn’t the church approached about its treatment on the doorstep of the Chaderal? Absolutely disgraceful. I am livid. Well done Paddy and please continue to be a thorn in their side.

  21. Thanks to “Dead Man Walking” (and Paddy) for that TV3 link, I wouldn’t have seen it otherwise.

    I always find it sad when Irish adults defend the Catholic Church – especially so when its women, and particularly so when its a mother (speaking as a mother myself).

    I don’t know but its my guess that Marie Collins is not a mother, which may go some way towards explaining her (to me) incredibly naive attitude with regard to the Catholic Church.

    As for Christine Buckley, she’s very different to Marie Collins in that she is undoubtedly a very embittered woman. It seems to me that for all the counselling she received (so she claims) she never recovered from what was done to her as a child growing up in Goldenbrige Orphanage. Nnote, I’m not sure I would have either, if I was her. I’m so glad I’m not…

  22. dead man walking

    Marie colins & Christine buckley on TV 3 22,2,2011 ..YOU TUBE CLIP SO ALL CAN WATCH …..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiKUm3IK-40&NR=1

  23. DID CHRISTINE BUCKLEY CHEAT DEATH. WAS SHE A “LUCKY SURVIVOR”.

    “Buckley said she was viciously beaten by Xavieria after it was discovered she had smuggled a letter out to a newspaper with the bread delivery man. The nun, she claims hit her repeatedly on the legs with a stick, using such force that her thigh burst open from her hip to her knee, leaving a scar that stretched from her buttock to the end of her thigh.

    “She says she recalls being brought to the hospital covered in blood. She was treated in casualty, or “the dispensary” as it was known to the children. She recalls her wound being sutured and dressed — she believed she received 80 to 120 stitches. She was not admitted as a patient to the hospital, and after her wounds were dressed was sent back to the orphanage.

    “Prendiville said he cannot recall ever treating a Goldenbridge child with a lacerated thigh. He said an injury needing such extensive stitching would not have been treated in Casualty. Standard medical practice would have necessitated that such an injury would require extensive surgery under a general anaesthetic, and a child with such an injury would have been detained as a patient at the hospital. In his experience, injuries to limbs caused by blunt instruments do not cause significant lacerations, but are more liable to cause fractures and muscular injuries — a medical view supported by R B Fisher, consultant at Belfast City hospital with 10 years experience of treating the victims of punishment beatings””””.

    Its apparent here that the Doctors are being kind to Ms Buckley. I have NO WISH, DESIRE NOR INCLINATION TO BE SO ACCOMADATING.

    There IS something grievously amiss here, and it does`nt take ROCKET SCIENCE to establish that Ms Buckley relies solely on “public abhorrence”” to her “injuries” to generate concern and “sympathy”. Ms Buckley purports the misconception that “proposition” be more interesting than it be true. Her “proposition” to her “injuries” defies the logic of medical science, flesh torn from buttock to thigh, so she says, and as is evident in press reportings over the years, guesstimates of EIGHTY,TO ONE HUNDRED, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY, TO ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY STITCHES TO THIS “WOUND” INFLICTED BY SISTER XAVERIRA.??

    If she WAS taken to Dr Stevens Hospital with such a “”wound”” would it NOT have been the FIRST PRIORITY of this Hospital to inform the Garda of a child BEARING SUCH A WOUND and how such a WOUND WAS COME BY.??

    We have NO DATES in relation to this “atrocity” being inflicted on a child, NO INFORMATION in regard to Ms Buckleys “letter” given to the bread delivery man, OR EVEN IF THERE WAS A STAMP ON IT, who was this letter to, and what was its contents.????.

    Ms Buckley , by her OWN admission has to be the most BRUTALLY ABUSED CHILD OF THE IRISH INSTITUTIONS.???? I mean, when you consider the BRUTAL BEATINGS , THE WHIPPINGS OF DAINGEAN, THE MURDEROUS PHYSICAL INTENT THROUGH BEATINGS IN ARTANE, THE ATROCIOUS PHYSICAL BEATINGS IN LETTERFRACK, UPTON, GLIN, CLONMEL, FERRYHOUSE, MALBOROUGH HOUSE, THE BALTIMORE FISHERIES, and the other brutal Institutions in Ireland, very rarely did we experience OR INDEED WITNESS CHILDREN NECESSITATING EIGHTY, ONE HUNDRED, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY, OR EVEN ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY STITCHES.????. Notwithstanding the FACT that the majority of OUR beatings came FROM FULLY GROWN AND HUGE MEN. ??? Sister Xaverira, she weighed NO MORE THAN THE FAT ON THE LIP OF A SEAGULL.!!!!.

    AS I HAVE CONSTANTLY SAID OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS ,, !!!! SHOW US THE SCAR CHRISTINE!!!!!.

  24. Is it any wonder that the press and media begin to distance themselves from the abuse crisis in Ireland when presented with a watered down version of FLORENCE HORSMAN HOGAN, Mrs BUCKET, Mrs DOYLE, OLD MOTHER RILEY, ALL ROLLED INTO ONE.??? Yes, none other than Ms Buckley of the “AILING” centre. To think that this woman “””represents””” survivors is MOST CERTAINLY thought provoking.???
    Like many others I`m not interested in hearing about her “darlings” or whats important for THEM.? My concern is with the DARLINGS WHO LIE IN COLD UNMARKED GRAVES WHO NEVER MADE IT HOME FROM THE GULAGS AND CHILD BROTHELS OF IRELAND. MY CONCERNS ARE WITH THOSE SUFFERING POVERTY AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THEIR LIVES BEING BLIGHTED BY IMPRISONMENT IN THE GULAGS OF IRELAND. And now I have a NEW concern, this remark of buckley to the effect that “”VICTIMHOOD”” remains the PRIORITY of thousands of children who went through the GULAGS AND CHILD BROTHELS OF IRELAND. This injurious and demeaning “reflection” of Buckleys deserves a reply. She uttered this blasphemous and slanderous comment PUBLICLY, so she can have NO qualms of the consequences it brings in regard to her mental status and “suitability” to be a proper and fit person to “represent” vulnerable people. ??? Her facist imagery represents nothing more than a lackey and mouthpiece for the more undesirable elements of the catholic church. Just where is the intellectual justification of TV 3 for inflicting the radical views of this woman on still hurting and vulnerable survivors.?? Just WHO, in the name `a jasus thinks or feels that this woman is capable of projecting intelligent comment to SERIOUS questions.???????.

    To think, or even contemplate the awful thought that this woman is seen as a !!!champion!!! for those so grievously harmed and destroyed in the GULAGS OF IRELAND has me reaching for the puke bucket.I listened in amazement coupled with utter contempt as this woman attempted to “portray” her absolute moment of “self-attainment” as an emotional unity in gaining “release” from her “anger” thereby resulting in her becoming a good “”mother””.????? WAS I WATCHING THE CHRISTINE BLEAKLEY SHOW, OR THE CHRISTINE BUCKLEY SHOW???.
    Talking of Mothers, yesterday at a meeting in London I was forced to “”pigeonhole”” whatever feelings or “”anger”” I possess as I was brought into the “”real”” world of ongoing suffering, REAL SUFFERING, as I listened to a young woman relate the story of her Mother who was incacerated in a Magdalene laundry in Cork. She never knew her Mother, never got to know her Mother, who died in this poxy laundry and was buried in a communal grave with some sixty other women and children. This young woman expressed not anger, but pure frustration at having no singular nor individual grave for her Mother, in common it appears with so many other children whose Mothers were treated with so much disgusting disrepect when they deserved so much better. THIS THEN IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF SECOND GENERATION PAIN AND ABUSE. A MENTAL TURMOIL WITHOUT END. AND TO WATCH THIS CHRISTINE BUCKLEY PURPORT THE VIEW, (her view) THAT “”VICTIMHOOD”” IS THE CONTINUING AIM OF SURVIVORS EARMARKS HER AS SOME SORT OF UNFEELING CRETAN.

    Ms Buckley merely represents the continual lapse of intellect into instinct, the instinct to achive the funding she so ravenously craves to pursue her “”career”” of publicity chasing and jumping in front of cameras. Her “””welfare programme””” for survivors represents the level of concern which HITLER displayed to achive “happiness”” for the Jews of Europe.???? Thus in the more important fields of thought, opinion is free and so are large divergencies of “sharp practice” as displayed by this AILING centre lauded over by Ms Buckley which, she tells us, HAS PRODUCED SO MUCH “””healing for survivors””.???????.

  25. dead man walking

    Christine Buckley The favourite of the State to carry out their work in silencing the real Survivors. well said Siobhan

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  27. Paddy you are the bravest MAN in Ireland. It’s you who should have been given the spirit of Ireland award ,+ all other awards NOT that Bully Christine Buckley The favourite of the State to carry out their work in silencing the real Survivors. She is a WICKED person.

  28. dead man walking

    she did herself no favours on telly but behind the scenes she helped herself no end !

  29. More on Ms.Buckley’s TV3 Interview

    “I didn’t cause their pain”

  30. A few Quotes from Ms. Buckley on her TV3 Interview

    “I thought it was thought provoking. I had my darlings there. My Babies- My Children
    Em-I- I thought it was terribly important for them.”

    “I wouldn’t be as generous or kind to those protesters. I have to say eh which goes to show
    that no real miracle happened with me on Sunday
    I’m not like saint Paul on the road to Damascus. Em. I would know a number of those protesters and I have to say there were very few and Em they have Em There are survivors who will always want to remain VICTIMS, and who will not go for counselling and I know there were people outside who used our services in Aislinn and who have stayed and remained in anger.

    You know I’m going to be called names and that is what happened on Sunday and my answer is this.

    Why didn’t you do what I started to do 27 years ago?

    Interviewer: Maybe the anger is genuine?

  31. dead man walking

    can be watched on you tube as far as im aware the event itself was filmed by the church or some t v station .a short clip was shown on tg4 irish television station .the clip i saw was in gailic .here is a clip of paddy & mary smith being refused entry to the pro cathederal .so much for his invite

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gDSLfZmfkQ&feature=player_embedded

  32. According to the stewards and the police I was going to cause trouble. The police told me they were there not to protect the church but to protect the building. It’s as if I was going to blow the place up or burn it down. I was also barred because I wanted to help a Magdalene lady to hand a letter to the Cardinal O’ Malley who was sent over by the Pope and who had now gone back to Boston from whence he came. I don’t know what he was here for and I don’t know what is going to happen now that has done his ‘Papal Visitation’ Paddy.

  33. Kathleen O'Malley. "Childhood Interrupted"

    Paddy.
    Why then were you barred. There is something not quite right here, also when was it the invitations were received?. I question why this whole Theatre was only brought to my and others attention two weeks ago.
    I would have gone to Dublin had I had more notice, as I am sure others would have also.
    Kathleen O’Malley. “Childhood Interrupted”

  34. AND SO, CAN IT BE TAKEN FOR GRANTED, THAT THE FOLLOWING WILL TAKE PLACE HENCEFORTH:

    THE POPE HIMSELF – IN PERSON – WILL ADDRESS ALL THE VICTIMS – SAY HOW VERY SORRY HE IS – AND NOT LET OTHERS SPEAK FOR HIM WHOEVER THEY MAY BE.

    HE WILL CALL ON ALL THE VICTIMS – INCLUDING MANY WHO HAVE NOT HAD THE STRENGTH TO DO SO – OR THEIR CHILDREN IF THE VICTIMS HAVE DIED – HE WILL CALL THE VICTIMS TO COME FORWARD WITH THEIR CLAIMS FOR COMPENSATION AND REPARATION.

    THE POPE AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL AGREE AND SETTLE ALL THESE CLAIMS WITHOUT ANY ARGUING AND RE-TRAUMATIZING OF THE CLAIMANTS, AND INDEED, PAY WITH INTEREST.

    THE CHURCH WILL SETTLE IMMEDIATELY – WITH OR WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OR SERVICES OF THE STATE.

    THE CHURCH WILL ALSO DO ALL IN HER POWER TO HELP THE SURVIVORS IN THEIR QUEST TO FIND A DECENT LIFE FOR THEMSELVES – WITHOUT ANY HINT OF RELIGION, CATHOLICISM OR GOD IN THE PICTURE.

    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL MAKE ALL HER RECORDS AVAILABLE AND CO-OPERATE IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY – VOLUNTEERING INFORMATION EVEN IF NOT ASKED – IN ORDER TO APPREHEND THE CULPRITS, ABUSERS AND CRIMINALS – INCLUDING ALL THE
    NON-SEXUAL ACTS OF VIOLENCE, CRUELTY AND EMOTIONAL / PSYCHOLOGICAL TORMENT.

    THE SCALES AND DRAPES OF LIES, CONCEALMENT AND MACHINATIONS WILL FALL ONCE AND FOR ALL. AND THE TRUTH WILL BE ALLOWED TO SHINE, THROUGH THE VOICES OF THE VICTIMS – AS WELL AS THE VOICES OF ORDINARY PEOPLE WHEN THEY WAKE FROM THEIR HIBERNATION.

    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL DO EVERYTHING IN HER POWER TO PROTECT CHILDREN ALL
    OVER THE WORLD – FROM THE RAVAGES OF WARS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND CORPORAL
    PUNISHMENT.

    THE CHURCH WILL LEARN HENCEFORTH TO CONCERN HERSELF AS MUCH WITH THE RIGHTS OF CHILDREN, AS WITH THE UNBORN LIFE.

    FINALLY, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL DISSOCIATE HERSELF FROM THE STATE AND THE AFFAIRS OF GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING EDUCATION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. AND SHE WILL PUT HER HOUSE IN ORDER BEFORE UTTERING ANOTHER WORD OVER THE AIRWAVES.

    RAYMOND

  35. Kathleen. The position as far as I know it was that six people, including myself were invited to have our feet washed by Cardinal’s and Bishops. I declined. Indeed I described the whole thing as a stunt when I was interviewed for the main evening news on TV. The congregation was not there by invitation only. Hope this helps. Paddy.

  36. Since this was considered very important to all survivers well WHY WASENT IT FILMED.AS FOR SOME SURVIVERS WANTING TO STAY VICTIMS. well chrissy your are the star no doubt about that. very few of us have been able to make a profession out of it.

  37. Thanks very much DMW.for putting this on . well so survivers had an input. well we dident know that as to why we have not done the same thing as chrissy. well because we thought we were all doing this together.The holy father annouced that child abuse can not be avoided a few weeks before all this it would have been the occasion to point out that child abuse is never acceptable.When we were children together we shared the same stick. thats why it is upsetting to see by the media that the pet system is still in place. many of us are totally ignored by the group leaders.Since these people get all the attention in all our names. We get nothing at all not even news about surviver events. a man or men lying on floors wont change anything for the absent ones. Well chrissy and her kids had a good time in there well being cut off hurts. and Many of us are good mothers and good dads. but we are isolated.and many of us live with our problems without any solidarity from the leaders. There were not many people before the Church on sunday but paddy alone represents survivers from all over the world which is not the case of the well known leaders.

  38. Kathleen O'Malley. "Childhood Interrupted"

    Can someone please clarify was entry into the Cathedral by invitation only.
    Kathleen O’Malley.”Childhood Interrupted”.

  39. “Give back them Teddy Bears”
    I’m washing my feet of all this
    “Give back them Teddy Bears”
    For the last time I’m saying now right here
    “Give back them Teddy Bears”
    or I’m washing my feet

  40. Thee exact same thing happened to victims on Easter Sunday 2010 at the Pro Cathedral. We were refused entry by stewards(protectors of the building) and gardai. I wondered at the time if they could legally do this.

  41. dead man walking

    http://www.tv3.ie/videos.php?video=32818&locID=1.65.370&date=2011-02-23&date_mode=1&page=1&show_cal=2&newspanel&showspanel=1&web_only&full_episodes

    above is what christine buckley had to say about this event and survivors .copy and paste the link

    was shown on t v 3 this morning programe wensday 23rd of feb 2011

  42. We should be given the names of those 7 survivors who were secretly invited and went ahead without breathing a word to other survivors none of us knew this was happening not to difficult to know who they are could it possibly be Herself,<from the A ,

  43. Hello paddy .well now its hard to believe that you are a danger to buildings.But if thats what we are supposed to believe ?????? yes’ ???? in what way.

  44. http://www.gardaombudsman.ie/
    Paddy

    I called the Garda department and they have a department which deals with complaints. The man Sean said I couldn’t made complaint to Garda Ombudsman unless I witnessed the event or if I was directly effected by it. I also told him what happened to you and Mary was in the International papers and on You Tube, but again unless I witnessed or directly effected by what happened to you the Garda Ombudsman would not look at my complaint.
    so what I’m asking here is “Am I effected by what happened to Paddy Doyle and Mary Smith last Sunday?”.

    Yes I am and I’m going to send in my complaint and I think other writers to this forumn should do likewise if They were effected that is.
    I’ve given link where complaints can be sent in on-line if anyone wants to complain.
    remember we are not complaining about what was going on inside.we are complaining about the Treatment of Paddy Doyle by a Garda and that is that paddy Doyle was refused entrance to a place of worship,aka The House of God, a public building. Mary Smith was also refused entrance by a Garda to a place of worship, aka The House of God, a public building

  45. Kathleen O'malley"Childhood Interrupted"

    Who is surprised by this controlling behaviour. It would appear those who attended the service were invited individually. Why Paddy are you surprised that you were not allowed entry.?
    I am concerned that this invitation was extended to half a dozen Survivors, yet they agreed to the request of the organisers to remain quite. The secretiveness of the Catholice Church continues on into Adult Life amongst the Abused. I believe those who knew about this should have expressed loyality and informed us at the off set. This gives continued power to the leaders of the Catholice Church.
    United we Stand Divided we Fall.
    Kathleen O’Malley.”Childhood Interrupted”

  46. Pauline. The police told me they were protecting the building and not the bishops. When I informed them that I wasn’t going to blow the place up or burn it down, they took no notice of me and wouldn’t let me in anyway. Paddy.

  47. Paddy how come you are seen as a security risk? AND CHURCHES are public places.Do they think that you might have a bomb under your bottom. You missed another happening. WHAT’S NEXT? If you could ask the newspapers perhaps they could let us in on things for a change.

  48. Paddy, you’re a torch, fearlessly showing up the dark places. They scuttle away but you’ll inspire the rest of us. Rock on!

  49. so they want to wash your feet for forgiveness?
    then lets look at this more closely.
    I am a survivor who heard nothing I was not sent anything I was not asked anything I was not invited. In truth they do not even know who the hell I AM.
    what happened to paddy and mary at the door was a disgrace to that thought they had for forgiveness.
    I felt so angry inside my blood was boiling is this what they want? to give us even more stress.
    I would love to write some swear words here on how I feel about these disgusting people who seek their own pity for their own sick perverse attitudes towards survivors.
    All they have done each time is admitted and proven the damage they did and are still doing.
    They seem to think because a handful survivors agreed to this as a way of comfort instead of doing this before their god, they did it in public as the hypocrites do according to the bible they preach. their own bible exposes these kind of works as glory hunters worshipers of their own pride.
    this kind of works is church business just as confession is of the catholic sins, also done in private.
    If confession is private then why is this done in public ?
    If this was for survivors then every single survivor should have been asked without excuses and the answers they receive from survivors should be private.

    PLEASE EXPLAIN
    THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONFESSIONS IN CONFESSION BOXES WHERE IT IS PRIVATE SO PEOPLE AS INDIVIDUALS WHO GO TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS FROM GOD BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHO SET CONFESSIONS UP THIS WAY.

    AND THIS STUNT CARRIED OUT IN PUBLIC BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH?

    WHAT A RIGHT MESS, ( NO NOT MASS ) THE WORD IS MESS I SAID.
    THESE PEOPLE DREAM UP ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING AS THEY GO ALONG THE PATH OF DESTRUCTION JUST TO SUIT THEMSELVES.

    I THOUGHT WE CAME THROUGH THE MEDIEVAL TIMES BUT HEY WE ARE ALL STILL THERE, IS THIS JUST THE BEGINNING?
    MAYBE WE SHOULD BE SPELLING THIS “( MID-EVIL )” TIMES.

    COME ON MR. POPE WHAT IS THE NEXY RELIGIOUS INVENTION?

  50. Ireland is a Land of Contradictions, Denial, Perjury, Abuse and Broken Promises.

    Ruled mainly by the Roman Catholic Church.

    The short text below indicates the nature of this ABERRATION.

    VATICAN CITY STATE.

    Area of approximately 44 hectares (110 acres).
    Population: 800 (!!)
    Established in 1929 by Prime Minister Benito MUSSOLINI.
    Ordinances of Vatican City are published in Italian.
    Official documents of the Holy See, mainly in Latin.
    The Holy See, not being a country, issues diplomatic passports.
    Vatican City State issues normal passports.
    Very few passports are issued by either authority.

    Vatican City is an ecclesiastical or sacerdotal-monarchical state, ruled by the Bishop of Rome – the Pope.

    The Vatican also conducts worldwide financial activities, having its own bank, Istituto per le Opere di Religione (also known as the Vatican Bank, and with the acronym IOR). This bank has an ATM with instructions in Latin, possibly the only such ATM in the world.

    The Vatican City State employs nearly 2000 people.

    The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. The pope, as the visible ruler of this immense amassment of wealth, is consequently the richest individual in the world. No one can realistically assess how much he is worth in terms of billions of dollars.”

    Jesus, the founder of Christianity, was the poorest of the poor.
    Roman Catholicism, which claims to be His church, is the richest of the rich, the wealthiest institution on earth.

    Ruled exclusively by elderly men, dressed in robes, adorned of strange hats and scarves, wearing red shoes or slippers (with marked preference for Gucci and Prada).

    Controls by decree half the world’s population, ie Women and their bodies.

    Men of the Catholic Church are not allowed to marry and take solemn vows of chastity.

    Their women-servants (nuns) become Brides-of-Christ (!).

    Crimes against children, Sexual Abuse and Paedophilia are tolerated.

    Fear, Eternal Damnation, Fires of Hell, Sin, theatrical antics, pomp and ceremony and unfathomable laws are their tools.

    VATICAN CITY STATE: Population = 800…!

  51. An Garda Síochána
    Men in Grey Suits
    Offer it up
    Man in a wheelchair
    Magdalen woman
    Offer it up
    Bishops
    Cardinals
    Offer it up
    Washing feet
    Scary stuff
    Offer it up
    CB and MC
    Feet in a bucket
    Grown men in dresses
    Offer it up

  52. Just shows how insane the men of god are. Not only do they hear voices in their heads but now ban the people they invited.

    BRING ON THE WHITE COATS.

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