What if the Irish public had known about the Child Exploitation? Well as a matter of fact they did and some even engaged in it, farmers for example, everyone knew about the commercial undertakings by the nuns at Goldenbridge, where one in three Rosary beads produced in the world came from the nuns child labour factory.

The religious orders were not happy with the commercial exploitation, they even robbed 75% of the money given by their partners in crime( The State) to feed, clothe and educate the children.

Irish society was well aware that the children from Industrial Schools had very low levels of education, poor health, low self esteem and few social skills. Few members of Irish Society complained and the few that did were ignored.

The commercial exploitation of Industrial School children was carried out in the whole of Ireland by farmers, industry, hotels, shops, big department stores, etc etc.

The vast profits made by the Industrial Schools went to buy land, buildings, personal luxuries, palaces and all of the other trappings of wealth but then their co-conspirators were the most corrupt, secretive, bureaucratic and bigoted state on earth.

Survivors will only get what the Church State wants them to get, if anything. What is going on at the moment is the full weight of the Church State damage limitations exercise. Cowen is being told what to say and how to say it. The Bishops and CORI are all being schooled in damage limitations. If we do get further redress we would have brought the full weight of public opinion to bear on the Church State. To do this we will all have to contribute to getting legal representation from senior counsel and we have to do it NOW. For what it is worth my 200 Euro’s is in the fund, NOW IT IS YOUR TURN. I have no doubt that Barry Clifford is a man of principle, I am also sure that he will publish a plan of legal action and full financial accounts unlike the rest of the so called leaders.

Christy

As you know in 1940 the Roman Catholic Church opened a Paedophile Treatment Centre for Clerics and it was called SERVANTS OF THE PARACLETES.
So every time that a Bishop recommended a cleric to be admitted to one of these centres he was protecting a CHILD RAPIST and as such was committing the most vile criminal act against the Irish People.

The serious sexual abuse of children will continue to happen until such times as the Irish People demand that the politicians act to remove all of the Bishops now in place in Ireland. If these people are not removed from office then it will become more difficult to detect Child Sexual Abuse by the Clergy. If something is not done then I can see another Murphy, another Ryan Report, another McCoy Report cropping up every few years and by cropping up I mean the serious Sexual Abuse of Children by Paedophile Catholic Church Clerics.

Christy

I now understand why politicians and Judges will not do anything to rectify the situation. They know that HSE social workers are immune against prosecution or civil action and, if they interfere, their children and grand children will be taken in care.

I am not advocating it, but is there another solution other than terrorist action and systematic elimination of social workers that is dishonest? One method is having their children taken in care ….

It is for the Irish people to vote with their feet – take action – protest – speak up – and say STOP. Of course WE can blame the organizations, the august bodies of the State and the Catholic Church, but that hasn’t brought much change. WE have to do that. When the HSE asked Alan Shatter
to “remove” the report from the public domain, it EXPOSED in one single sentence, the Truth in all its irony and contradiction: the HSE claimed that “….it would not be fair for the CHILDREN to hear or read details of the report as they were heading to school, and that it had to “respect and protect the Constitutional” rights of the FAMILY.

The CHILD at the moment has NO RIGHTS. The long battle to change the Constitution culminated recently in the “Proposed Wording for the Amendment”. So, not only, we’re not there yet; not only will the People have to vote and PASS the amendment (and that is no certainty); but close inspection and scrutiny of the said-Proposed Wording, STILL DOES NOT GUARANTEE PROTECTION AND SAFETY OF THE CHILD. How about that? Because the family, the parents (dressed as whoever the Adult-specialized-and-skilled-knowing-best-professionals will be) are still deemed to KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CHILD.

We are good at pointing the finger – while we sit back and “try to learn” through Reality-TV, watching our precious teenagers been marched to boot-camps in our green hills. It is very far from reality WE try to turn ourselves. Many like to say that there ARE changes; that things ARE happening. Well the place IS ON FIRE. GRAB ALL AVAILABLE EXTINGUISHERS. The PLAN is not what will put the fire out.

That is why March 24th is about THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

Come and assemble from ALL CORNERS of Ireland. Come in your tractors and your trucks. Fill every bus and train. Put up your hands and say STOP. Bring your children with you: it is about THEM now – just as it was about the Victims THEN, who paid the price of our tolerance with THEIR LIVES.

Barry, you write well: would you send something to all the newspapers, the press, the media, to rally the Nation ! It might go like this:

“…..COMING TOGETHER
It feels good to be among you to day….”

Raymond

One for All – All for One

As always, Bruce is spot on.

Yes, there are many examples of the state HSE and other agencies destroying evidence which proved negligence and discrimination towards service users- victims of the system.

In fact in 1995 I was told that if I ever DARED to come back looking for these files, I would be told there was a fire, and sure enough in 2009, my request under data protection led to a letter stating there was a fire in 2005 and my files got burned.

Now how would the state agent know about a fire 10 years in advance???

I am sure there are many more people out there who got the same slap in the face in order to try and keep the truth hidden about the real child abusers inside the system, namely HSE.

Several letters to various ministers proved futile because they all used the same bit in law- they cannot intervene in the work of the HSE and family courts, which by the way are run by the Catholic Church- Opus Dei branch.

The catholic cult and the state are bed fellows.

Well done Alan Shatter for speaking up.

“Care is the one place where you can LEGALLY ABUSE CHILDREN AND GET PAID FOR IT”

The words of a young girl on leaving so called care.

Care is corporate care and all about money, just like the church institutions before that.

We are well on the way to Autogenocide.

But as a nation we are so frozen in fear, that we are doing nothing to support the victims, but our silence supports the abusers.