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		<title>Abuse groups who met bishops accused of &#8216;solo run&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Friday, October 9, 2009 OLIVIA KELLY TWO LEADING campaigners for victims of abuse in residential institutions have accused other victims’ representatives of going on a “solo run” in meeting with Catholic bishops this week. Four groups, Soca (Survivors of Child Abuse) Ireland, Right to Peace, Alliance and Right of Place, met the Irish Bishops’ Conference [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Friday, October 9, 2009</em></p>
<p><em>OLIVIA KELLY</em></p>
<p>TWO LEADING campaigners for victims of abuse in residential institutions have accused other victims’ representatives of going on a “solo run” in meeting with Catholic bishops this week.</p>
<p>Four groups, Soca (Survivors of Child Abuse) Ireland, Right to Peace, Alliance and Right of Place, met the Irish Bishops’ Conference in Maynooth last Wednesday.</p>
<p>The groups made several submissions to the bishops, including a request for a new benevolent fund, and for the bishops to make representations to the Taoiseach to speed up dealings with religious congregations towards the setting up of a new trust.</p>
<p>Tom Hayes, of the Alliance group, said the four organisations had a mandate to attend the meeting as they represented a majority of survivors.</p>
<p>However, Mick Waters, founder of Soca UK, which works with victims of abuse in Ireland who now live in Britain, and Paddy Doyle, author of <strong>The God Squad</strong>, said yesterday that the four groups did not have a mandate to speak for survivors and should not have met with the bishops.</p>
<p>Some 12 groups had met the Government last June, where it was agreed the Government would act as brokers in a deal with Cori, representing religious orders, in relation to a new restitution fund, Mr Waters said.</p>
<p>“Approximately 12 groups met with members of the Cabinet. It is wrong for any four people to go on a solo run and make a statement that they have a mandate to speak for survivors.”</p>
<p>No meeting should have taken place with the bishops until after the religious orders had finally revealed their assets and until after the Dublin commission report into clerical sex abuse had been published, Mr Doyle said.</p>
<p>John Kelly, of Soca Ireland, said the four organisations represented the “vast majority of victims” and that those people needed closure. “We had a mandate to do what we did,” he said.</p>
<p>Michael O’Brien, of the Right to Peace group, said any group who wished to could have attended the meeting with the bishops and that no one was excluded.</p>
<p><em>The Irish Times</em></p>
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		<title>Did this letter sink the Labour Party motion in Dáil Eireann?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To: Eamon Gilmore &#8211; Leader of the Labour Party Re: The Institutional Child Abuse Bill 2009 On: Wednesday 8th July 2009 &#8211; at 14.30h On behalf of the membership of Irish SOCA, I have been asked to make representation to you on the Bill currently before the Dail which was debated yesterday evening 7th July [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>To: Eamon Gilmore &#8211; Leader of the Labour Party</strong></p>
<p><strong>Re: The Institutional Child Abuse Bill 2009</strong></p>
<p><strong>On: Wednesday 8th July 2009 &#8211; at 14.30h</strong></p>
<p>On behalf of the membership of Irish SOCA, I have been asked to make representation to you on the Bill currently before the Dail which was debated yesterday evening 7th July 2009.</p>
<p>The feeling amongst our members is that the Bill as currently conceived has no hope of success without cross-party consensus which developed following the Ryan Report and that support of Government is absolutely vital for its safe passage through both Houses of the Oireachtas.</p>
<p>There are many laudable aspects to the Bill as presented, but the Government is engaged in various initiatives at present including an audit by a panel of experts of the assets of the 18 CORI religious orders that are signatory to the April 2002 Indemnity Agreement. A report from the audit Committee is expected by government in September this year.<br />
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<p>In recent weeks our members have been heartened by the cross-party agreement that has emerged in the Dail. We wonder therefore whether it would be advantageous for all concerned to defer this Bill until the outcome of the audit is known and government is better placed to make judgement on the way forward &#8211; we feel that nothing can be lost by a short delay.</p>
<p>The Labour Party has Irish SOCA permission to inform the Dáil or other parties of interest that Irish SOCA has requested The Labour Party to defer this Bill until the outcome of the audit is known and government is better placed to make judgement on the way forward.</p>
<p>We would appreciate an early response from the Labour Party to our request if possible by early this afternoon.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely,</p>
<p>John Kelly</p>
<p>For IRISH-SOCA</p>
<p>Irishsoca@eircom.net</p>
<p><a href="mailto:irishsoca@eircom.net">Email Irish S.O.C.A.</a></p>
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		<title>Nothing About Us Without Us.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 22:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Nothing About Us Without Us</strong><br />
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I hold fast to the view that there must be no more deals, secret or otherwise done between Religious orders and the Government of Ireland without indepth consultation with people who were abused while in the care of religious orders or the state.<br />
Paddy.</p>
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