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		<title>By: Paddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It means that any comment sent to the website has to be approved by the webmaster.  That is, myself.  It is an extremely rare occasion that a comment is not approved or &#039;moderated&#039;.  I hope this answers your question. Paddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means that any comment sent to the website has to be approved by the webmaster.  That is, myself.  It is an extremely rare occasion that a comment is not approved or &#8216;moderated&#8217;.  I hope this answers your question. Paddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Roche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Roche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does &#039;comment awaiting moderation&#039; mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does &#8216;comment awaiting moderation&#8217; mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Roche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Roche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The abuse will never stop as long as the Church is allowed to claim &#039;Moral Authority&#039; based on the premise that the Son of God gave that authority to the Church before he died to save us from the curse of Original Sin, the doctrine that we are all born as co-sinners with Adam and Eve.
The inconvenient truth,however, is that there is no mention of that in Genesis.  So why did Jesus die?  And whence the authority of the Church?  My heart goes out to all ...keep the fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The abuse will never stop as long as the Church is allowed to claim &#8216;Moral Authority&#8217; based on the premise that the Son of God gave that authority to the Church before he died to save us from the curse of Original Sin, the doctrine that we are all born as co-sinners with Adam and Eve.<br />
The inconvenient truth,however, is that there is no mention of that in Genesis.  So why did Jesus die?  And whence the authority of the Church?  My heart goes out to all &#8230;keep the fight!</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sad to say but wherever there are vulnerable children there are predators - many of these predators are in the so called religious life. If there is a God all I can think of to say is: God Help Us All.  Paddy.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sad to say but wherever there are vulnerable children there are predators &#8211; many of these predators are in the so called religious life. If there is a God all I can think of to say is: God Help Us All.  Paddy.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI, You All:

I&#039;m from the States.  Over here we didn&#039;t have Magdalene Laundries to my knowledge, but we had other Catholic-run orphanages/institutions which were just as sinister.  In the 40&#039;s and 50&#039;s there was a social agenda of making our Native American Indians &quot;more American.&quot;  They were put in Indian Schools or orphanages where they were forbidden to use their native languages, practice their religious customs, talk to their siblings, etc.  This was supposedly accomplished by taking them out of the homes of loving parents and putting them in &quot;indian Schools,&quot; some of which were run by nuns.  I understand that social workers in Canada did the same thing to their native populations.  In Canada these Indian Children are often called &quot;The Lost Generation.&quot;

One of my friends,  who is about 67, now, along with her two brothers, were placed in an Orphanage run by the Sisters of S. Joseph in Oklahoma.  At that time, the children were about 4, 5, and 6 yrs old.  Oklahoma has a large, indigenous Cherokee Indian population, and it is a dry, hot, miserably humid place in the summer.  The orphanage &quot;made money&quot; by having the children pick their weight in cotton, every day.  If they didn&#039;t pick their weight in cotton, they were severely beaten, by their loving, uncharitable, merciless nuns.  Picking cotton is very difficult and their hands were usually cut up.

My friend&#039;s grandfather was a Cherokee Medicine Man.  He was troubled because he intuitively knew that his grandchildren were being mistreated and abused at a Catholic Orphanage, but he had no idea where the children were located.  My friend claims that one night her grandfather had a dream about where the children were being held (against their wills).  The next day, he took his pick-up truck and a heavy metal chain, and pulled the iron gates off of the Catholic orphanage.  He called out for the children and when they heard him they came running out of the orphanage.  A nun was knocked down a stairway by one of her brothers, who was trying to break free.

After the children were freed, they told him how they were beaten and abused, and he took them down to the local newspaper, which took pictures of their belted backs and backsides.  When she told me the story, she could tell that I found this kind of &quot;Slave Labor&quot; and abuse in the 20th century, almost incredulous.  She then took out the newspaper article, along with the picture, and showed me her proof.  I was dumbfounded that something as barbaric as this kind of abuse by nuns could have happened in the United States in the 1940&#039;s and 50&#039;s!

You might be wondering, &quot;What ever happened to &quot;The precious Brides of Christ, also known as the Black Veiled Monsters,&quot; who abused them?&quot;  Well, the orphanage conveniently &quot;burned down,&quot; and the Sisters of St. Joseph never had any record of any Cherokee children being there, abused there, etc!  To this day, she has never been able to get any kind of redress from the Catholic Church or recognition from the Sisters of St. Joseph.

I often wonder what the poor orphans in Church-run schools in Africa, Mexico and South America are experiencing?  I wonder if they, too, are a source of &quot;Slave Labor&quot; and physical and/or sexual abuse.

When will the Catholic Church and Vatican learn that their sins will not only be shouted from the rooftops, but in our generation, from satellites in outer-space?

My prayers are with those who have been abused by the Church, all around the world.   Truth Will Triumph!

Jeannie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI, You All:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m from the States.  Over here we didn&#8217;t have Magdalene Laundries to my knowledge, but we had other Catholic-run orphanages/institutions which were just as sinister.  In the 40&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s there was a social agenda of making our Native American Indians &#8220;more American.&#8221;  They were put in Indian Schools or orphanages where they were forbidden to use their native languages, practice their religious customs, talk to their siblings, etc.  This was supposedly accomplished by taking them out of the homes of loving parents and putting them in &#8220;indian Schools,&#8221; some of which were run by nuns.  I understand that social workers in Canada did the same thing to their native populations.  In Canada these Indian Children are often called &#8220;The Lost Generation.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of my friends,  who is about 67, now, along with her two brothers, were placed in an Orphanage run by the Sisters of S. Joseph in Oklahoma.  At that time, the children were about 4, 5, and 6 yrs old.  Oklahoma has a large, indigenous Cherokee Indian population, and it is a dry, hot, miserably humid place in the summer.  The orphanage &#8220;made money&#8221; by having the children pick their weight in cotton, every day.  If they didn&#8217;t pick their weight in cotton, they were severely beaten, by their loving, uncharitable, merciless nuns.  Picking cotton is very difficult and their hands were usually cut up.</p>
<p>My friend&#8217;s grandfather was a Cherokee Medicine Man.  He was troubled because he intuitively knew that his grandchildren were being mistreated and abused at a Catholic Orphanage, but he had no idea where the children were located.  My friend claims that one night her grandfather had a dream about where the children were being held (against their wills).  The next day, he took his pick-up truck and a heavy metal chain, and pulled the iron gates off of the Catholic orphanage.  He called out for the children and when they heard him they came running out of the orphanage.  A nun was knocked down a stairway by one of her brothers, who was trying to break free.</p>
<p>After the children were freed, they told him how they were beaten and abused, and he took them down to the local newspaper, which took pictures of their belted backs and backsides.  When she told me the story, she could tell that I found this kind of &#8220;Slave Labor&#8221; and abuse in the 20th century, almost incredulous.  She then took out the newspaper article, along with the picture, and showed me her proof.  I was dumbfounded that something as barbaric as this kind of abuse by nuns could have happened in the United States in the 1940&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s!</p>
<p>You might be wondering, &#8220;What ever happened to &#8220;The precious Brides of Christ, also known as the Black Veiled Monsters,&#8221; who abused them?&#8221;  Well, the orphanage conveniently &#8220;burned down,&#8221; and the Sisters of St. Joseph never had any record of any Cherokee children being there, abused there, etc!  To this day, she has never been able to get any kind of redress from the Catholic Church or recognition from the Sisters of St. Joseph.</p>
<p>I often wonder what the poor orphans in Church-run schools in Africa, Mexico and South America are experiencing?  I wonder if they, too, are a source of &#8220;Slave Labor&#8221; and physical and/or sexual abuse.</p>
<p>When will the Catholic Church and Vatican learn that their sins will not only be shouted from the rooftops, but in our generation, from satellites in outer-space?</p>
<p>My prayers are with those who have been abused by the Church, all around the world.   Truth Will Triumph!</p>
<p>Jeannie</p>
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		<title>By: barry clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>barry clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hanora, you really are the best. 
Barry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hanora, you really are the best.<br />
Barry.</p>
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		<title>By: FXR</title>
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		<dc:creator>FXR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you tolerate this, then your children will be next. 

If you don&#039;t then there really be lots of Happy New Years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you tolerate this, then your children will be next. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t then there really be lots of Happy New Years!</p>
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		<title>By: Hanora Brennan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanora Brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told I was lucky not to have been placed in a Magdalene Laundry by the nuns when I told of my subsequent behaviour to being raped!  This by a legal representative of our courts and country!  He also represented a goodly number of applicants at the Redress Board.  No need to ask where his sympathies lay!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told I was lucky not to have been placed in a Magdalene Laundry by the nuns when I told of my subsequent behaviour to being raped!  This by a legal representative of our courts and country!  He also represented a goodly number of applicants at the Redress Board.  No need to ask where his sympathies lay!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Portia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Portia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>probation services- ah yes, my favourite group for loosing files in secret fires- how convenient.

I have witnesses to these officers screaming at innocent women to obey their masters and KNOW THEIR PLACE IN CATHOLIC IRELAND.

&quot;How dare us women think we are equal to men&quot;

Then go into court and the Dept Of Justice Judge will give the women the same lecture.

How dare women say they were victims of abuse.

How dare children say they were victims of abuse.

So, to keep the abuse hidden, women, men and children were locked away.

Paddy, we need all those who suffered under this regime of fear and abuse to come forward and tell their truth- even to write anon and send it to someone who wants to do the real research to uncover the true extent of abuse in Ireland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probation services- ah yes, my favourite group for loosing files in secret fires- how convenient.</p>
<p>I have witnesses to these officers screaming at innocent women to obey their masters and KNOW THEIR PLACE IN CATHOLIC IRELAND.</p>
<p>&#8220;How dare us women think we are equal to men&#8221;</p>
<p>Then go into court and the Dept Of Justice Judge will give the women the same lecture.</p>
<p>How dare women say they were victims of abuse.</p>
<p>How dare children say they were victims of abuse.</p>
<p>So, to keep the abuse hidden, women, men and children were locked away.</p>
<p>Paddy, we need all those who suffered under this regime of fear and abuse to come forward and tell their truth- even to write anon and send it to someone who wants to do the real research to uncover the true extent of abuse in Ireland.</p>
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		<title>By: Portia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Portia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course all the patriarchal agents of the state knew what was going on.

But, who cared,? after all they were only females, Magdalenes, whores, prostitutes, in the minds of this elite system.

No point in saying it any other way Paddy.

These are the words that were in the minds of the state agents at the time.

Now the agents call the children disposable shitbags.

If only people could hear what words are used by social workers, etc to describe abused children, we would return to the 1950&#039;s when in my area , there was a shoot to kill policy on the child snatchers- aka social workers- do gooders to the outside world, child abusers in secret.

They knew back in those days, they know now.

For 16 years I am writing to Ministers for Children,and what response do I get?

&quot;Sorry, but I am unable to do anything, as it is a matter for the courts.&quot;

So, clearly people, we see the same tactics used to NOT BE BOTHERED ABOUT THE CHILDREN.

Each dept passes the parcel like a game- as to them children are not human.

So, let the agents keep lying and lying and before long Tara will see Lady Justice arise and then we see how these agents of evil find excuses for their deeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course all the patriarchal agents of the state knew what was going on.</p>
<p>But, who cared,? after all they were only females, Magdalenes, whores, prostitutes, in the minds of this elite system.</p>
<p>No point in saying it any other way Paddy.</p>
<p>These are the words that were in the minds of the state agents at the time.</p>
<p>Now the agents call the children disposable shitbags.</p>
<p>If only people could hear what words are used by social workers, etc to describe abused children, we would return to the 1950&#8242;s when in my area , there was a shoot to kill policy on the child snatchers- aka social workers- do gooders to the outside world, child abusers in secret.</p>
<p>They knew back in those days, they know now.</p>
<p>For 16 years I am writing to Ministers for Children,and what response do I get?</p>
<p>&#8220;Sorry, but I am unable to do anything, as it is a matter for the courts.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, clearly people, we see the same tactics used to NOT BE BOTHERED ABOUT THE CHILDREN.</p>
<p>Each dept passes the parcel like a game- as to them children are not human.</p>
<p>So, let the agents keep lying and lying and before long Tara will see Lady Justice arise and then we see how these agents of evil find excuses for their deeds.</p>
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