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		<title>By: Denis Roche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Roche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not set up a legal fund for the women?  Solicit donations via the media and -- sweet irony! -- church gate collections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not set up a legal fund for the women?  Solicit donations via the media and &#8212; sweet irony! &#8212; church gate collections.</p>
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		<title>By: Eithne McGuinness</title>
		<link>http://www.paddydoyle.com/state-bullies-weak-yet-it-panders-to-the-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>Eithne McGuinness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really furious at this callous treatment of these women.  Any chance of getting a serious protest going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really furious at this callous treatment of these women.  Any chance of getting a serious protest going?</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
		<link>http://www.paddydoyle.com/state-bullies-weak-yet-it-panders-to-the-powerful/comment-page-1/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article!  There&#039;s no doubt in my mind that organised religion/religious dogma is the epitome of tyranny and when its forced upon a people - as Rome forced itself upon the Irish people - it makes people mad, literally!  

AFAIC, it will take a few more generations for the Irish masses to regain their collective sanity.  

Martin Maguire (commenter above) asks: Do we get the government we deserve?  I think the answer to that is, yes we do.  In other words, the present day Irish population (masses) allowing our so-called leaders to &quot;screw&quot; them, just as our parents and grandparents before us let our Roman Catholic masters dictate to them, i.e., control and dominate Irish society.  

So, when our corrupt politicos really tighten the screws, the masses will get a taste of what those child and women slaves of the Magadalene Laundries and Industrial Schools had to endure.  When we &quot;forget&quot; our past, history inevitably repeats itself.

I&#039;m seriously considering leaving this country for good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article!  There&#8217;s no doubt in my mind that organised religion/religious dogma is the epitome of tyranny and when its forced upon a people &#8211; as Rome forced itself upon the Irish people &#8211; it makes people mad, literally!  </p>
<p>AFAIC, it will take a few more generations for the Irish masses to regain their collective sanity.  </p>
<p>Martin Maguire (commenter above) asks: Do we get the government we deserve?  I think the answer to that is, yes we do.  In other words, the present day Irish population (masses) allowing our so-called leaders to &#8220;screw&#8221; them, just as our parents and grandparents before us let our Roman Catholic masters dictate to them, i.e., control and dominate Irish society.  </p>
<p>So, when our corrupt politicos really tighten the screws, the masses will get a taste of what those child and women slaves of the Magadalene Laundries and Industrial Schools had to endure.  When we &#8220;forget&#8221; our past, history inevitably repeats itself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m seriously considering leaving this country for good!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin John Petty (O'Callaghan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin John Petty (O'Callaghan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fintan, I have been saying for some years now how arrogant and bullish the Government is.  However, until they hold their hands up to all of their mis-deeds in all aspects, Magdalens, Industrial Schools etc, and say sorry, and mean it, Ireland as a Republic will never be able to hold it&#039;s head up again with the dignity it so desperately needs now.

People simply do not trust the powers that be, and with great justification.

I know that I do not trust them.  The Taoiseach (Bertie Ahearn) promised to get back to me many years ago regarding Expunging my &quot;Unlawful Conviction&quot; at age 2 years 11 months, which, was not Expunged at Redress, never mind what the Redress Act 2002 says about it.  My conviction, and all others not dealt with properly in the High Court, is still on record.

Even the Solicitors, in recomending the Redress route, knew that it was a &quot;Safe Route&quot; for the Government, and as such are themselves part of the great conspiracy in cheating many people out of their rights.

They will simply continue to cheat and lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fintan, I have been saying for some years now how arrogant and bullish the Government is.  However, until they hold their hands up to all of their mis-deeds in all aspects, Magdalens, Industrial Schools etc, and say sorry, and mean it, Ireland as a Republic will never be able to hold it&#8217;s head up again with the dignity it so desperately needs now.</p>
<p>People simply do not trust the powers that be, and with great justification.</p>
<p>I know that I do not trust them.  The Taoiseach (Bertie Ahearn) promised to get back to me many years ago regarding Expunging my &#8220;Unlawful Conviction&#8221; at age 2 years 11 months, which, was not Expunged at Redress, never mind what the Redress Act 2002 says about it.  My conviction, and all others not dealt with properly in the High Court, is still on record.</p>
<p>Even the Solicitors, in recomending the Redress route, knew that it was a &#8220;Safe Route&#8221; for the Government, and as such are themselves part of the great conspiracy in cheating many people out of their rights.</p>
<p>They will simply continue to cheat and lie.</p>
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		<title>By: raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting point Fintan, which was picked up on the earlier radio news this morning.

It shows to which extent the human body (and the mind in it) will go to maintain the Equilibrium in Denial. This month, 2 separate studies indicate that &quot;Slapping of Children results in Lower IQ&#039;s (by between 2.8 and 5 points). The Irish people have been able to &quot;handle their denial&quot; thanks to their great creativity (Music and Literature particularly), so it comes as no surprise that, the deeper we sink in this amoral pit of the Church-State Gulag, the more ingenuous the Creativity, ie &quot;...the territory of crude satiric exaggeration&quot;. Or is it that after 250 years, the effect of the black stuff is wearing off.... Satire for some. Heroin for the masses. Imagine Hitler being celebrated in Berlin for his 30th anniversary.... Would he get the same rapturous applause as we have for the Pope here in Ireland...? Somebody help us ! !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting point Fintan, which was picked up on the earlier radio news this morning.</p>
<p>It shows to which extent the human body (and the mind in it) will go to maintain the Equilibrium in Denial. This month, 2 separate studies indicate that &#8220;Slapping of Children results in Lower IQ&#8217;s (by between 2.8 and 5 points). The Irish people have been able to &#8220;handle their denial&#8221; thanks to their great creativity (Music and Literature particularly), so it comes as no surprise that, the deeper we sink in this amoral pit of the Church-State Gulag, the more ingenuous the Creativity, ie &#8220;&#8230;the territory of crude satiric exaggeration&#8221;. Or is it that after 250 years, the effect of the black stuff is wearing off&#8230;. Satire for some. Heroin for the masses. Imagine Hitler being celebrated in Berlin for his 30th anniversary&#8230;. Would he get the same rapturous applause as we have for the Pope here in Ireland&#8230;? Somebody help us ! !</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Cornish - Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Cornish - Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paddy 
When My name was published in the Ryan&#039;s Report And I got in touch with the Commission To Inquire Into Child Abuse I was told Sorry It was a mistake.
When I insisted the remove my name and details of my Entry to the Institution  I was told to get a solicitor and not to write to them again,knowing full well I could not afford to take the Commission to Court 
may</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy<br />
When My name was published in the Ryan&#8217;s Report And I got in touch with the Commission To Inquire Into Child Abuse I was told Sorry It was a mistake.<br />
When I insisted the remove my name and details of my Entry to the Institution  I was told to get a solicitor and not to write to them again,knowing full well I could not afford to take the Commission to Court<br />
may</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Maguire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Maguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi:  

Fintan O&#039;Toole&#039;s article is, I find, strangely refreshing.

I think he has encapsulated the thoughts of the many who are ruled by the not so few.

I think his article also points to the need for review by all citizens of the whole desperate episode of this assumption of democratic government and its associated processes, currently culminating in the Magdalene fiasco, that we have been subjected to.

This goes way beyond the current catalyst, the treatment of the Magdalene women, and    
I am left wondering how many such displays at this level of ineptitude will the Irish people suffer.

It is time to draw a line, not only in sand but under the continued burden of crass ignorance, despotic attitudes from those who appear to breathe an air that is not shared with the rest of us.

If we are to be governed, let it be by people who really understand the will and wishes of the people they supposedly serve.

Let us start by being represented by people who like the majority, have contracts of employment, have publicly available calendars of their work activity and who are as restrained by their work environment as the rest of us.  

Let us see if the every day reality of surviving will provide an enhancement to the democratic processes that we, or at least a majority of us, have signed up to by having our representatives live equally with us. 
 
Do people really get the government they deserve? 

In Ireland&#039;s case, I really hope not!

I am sure that the women who were so grossly and continue to be, mistreated, supposedly at our behest, would be excused if they believe this was just another example of a further continuation of their previous situation of exclusion and marginalisation.

The only saving grace is that our international reputation is already on the rocks and apparently little more damage can be done to this, except to delay further any possible salvaging of this. 

Regards
Martin Maguire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi:  </p>
<p>Fintan O&#8217;Toole&#8217;s article is, I find, strangely refreshing.</p>
<p>I think he has encapsulated the thoughts of the many who are ruled by the not so few.</p>
<p>I think his article also points to the need for review by all citizens of the whole desperate episode of this assumption of democratic government and its associated processes, currently culminating in the Magdalene fiasco, that we have been subjected to.</p>
<p>This goes way beyond the current catalyst, the treatment of the Magdalene women, and<br />
I am left wondering how many such displays at this level of ineptitude will the Irish people suffer.</p>
<p>It is time to draw a line, not only in sand but under the continued burden of crass ignorance, despotic attitudes from those who appear to breathe an air that is not shared with the rest of us.</p>
<p>If we are to be governed, let it be by people who really understand the will and wishes of the people they supposedly serve.</p>
<p>Let us start by being represented by people who like the majority, have contracts of employment, have publicly available calendars of their work activity and who are as restrained by their work environment as the rest of us.  </p>
<p>Let us see if the every day reality of surviving will provide an enhancement to the democratic processes that we, or at least a majority of us, have signed up to by having our representatives live equally with us. </p>
<p>Do people really get the government they deserve? </p>
<p>In Ireland&#8217;s case, I really hope not!</p>
<p>I am sure that the women who were so grossly and continue to be, mistreated, supposedly at our behest, would be excused if they believe this was just another example of a further continuation of their previous situation of exclusion and marginalisation.</p>
<p>The only saving grace is that our international reputation is already on the rocks and apparently little more damage can be done to this, except to delay further any possible salvaging of this. </p>
<p>Regards<br />
Martin Maguire</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is called Deceptive intelligence where the SS servants of the state- TD&#039;s etc use deceptive means to pull the wool over our eyes.

For years they have succeeded, because we are not awake to such psychological tactics being used on us sheeple.

The Magdalenes today, you and me tomorrow, unless we wake up to this evil deceeption of justice V Just US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is called Deceptive intelligence where the SS servants of the state- TD&#8217;s etc use deceptive means to pull the wool over our eyes.</p>
<p>For years they have succeeded, because we are not awake to such psychological tactics being used on us sheeple.</p>
<p>The Magdalenes today, you and me tomorrow, unless we wake up to this evil deceeption of justice V Just US.</p>
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