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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been quiet for some weeks now; I just cannot believe what has been happening; the publication of the Murphy Report has changed nothing; in fact there is so much madness and nastiness in the background that this whole show doesn&#039;t even qualify as a Farce; it is truly a Tragedy. 

When was it the right time to make a comment Paddy? At the beginning, in the middle? Now seems just as right. I suppose I feel Dispair and Huge Sadness for the Victims, as well as the &quot;Condition of the Irish People as a Whole&quot;. 

We saw a Pope remaining totally silent for weeks; Bishops saying they&#039;ve done nothing wrong; and our Politicians every bit as bad, only one step behind them. What is wrong with these people? The lack of leadership from the Pope was obvious and insane. Why are the bishops so cocky? Is there some kind of blackmail at play? Or is it the case that the Church people have become so warped that they just don&#039;t know how abnormal their thinking and behaviour is?

The day that Bishop Murray stood down saw the very priest he had been accused of sheltering being put away and jailed by the Law; timing is everything. We&#039;ve also had another priest LEAD the pack in Listowel to offer support to yet another man convicted for raping and maiming his Victim. And then Benedict has the nerve to elevate his predecessor John-Paul: Sainthood for the man who presided over these crimes!! This is just UNBELIEVABLE.

So now is just as good a time as any, following last night Front Line program (21st Dec). In it we saw our friend Michael O&#039;Brien calling on the Church, the State and the Law to get together once and for all and sort it all out. Regretfully, the Main Factor in this equation - the main ingredient in this recipe for Disaster, is still missing, as blatantly and obviously AS EVER since the Ryan Report: and that is THE IRISH PEOPLE. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF IRELAND. Who would have thought that Nothing Was Going to Change 6 months ago? Please don&#039;t tell me &quot;There is such Outrage&quot;.... Then there was that elderly priest on the show who welcomed the present crisis in the Church, saying that the old ways were gone and a new Church was to emerge: and How? He said he didn&#039;t know, and would have to take his cue from the Victims on the panel (Michael and the lady in the audience).... So: THERE was a man who had not Heard, not Felt and not Understoood a thing since May and had no capacity for Compassion. And HE was the most and best-intentioned we had heard so far.... 

I used to believe that Religions, were the cause of all wars and evil. I see now that the real culprit is the GOD-THING itself. For 2010, I would like to see the Papal Cross torn down from the Phoenix Park.

And to all the Victims, I want to extend my Unconditional Sympathy, and Condemnation of the Crimes perpetrated against them; all these years ago, and DAILY STILL in all the ways that our Society is failing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been quiet for some weeks now; I just cannot believe what has been happening; the publication of the Murphy Report has changed nothing; in fact there is so much madness and nastiness in the background that this whole show doesn&#8217;t even qualify as a Farce; it is truly a Tragedy. </p>
<p>When was it the right time to make a comment Paddy? At the beginning, in the middle? Now seems just as right. I suppose I feel Dispair and Huge Sadness for the Victims, as well as the &#8220;Condition of the Irish People as a Whole&#8221;. </p>
<p>We saw a Pope remaining totally silent for weeks; Bishops saying they&#8217;ve done nothing wrong; and our Politicians every bit as bad, only one step behind them. What is wrong with these people? The lack of leadership from the Pope was obvious and insane. Why are the bishops so cocky? Is there some kind of blackmail at play? Or is it the case that the Church people have become so warped that they just don&#8217;t know how abnormal their thinking and behaviour is?</p>
<p>The day that Bishop Murray stood down saw the very priest he had been accused of sheltering being put away and jailed by the Law; timing is everything. We&#8217;ve also had another priest LEAD the pack in Listowel to offer support to yet another man convicted for raping and maiming his Victim. And then Benedict has the nerve to elevate his predecessor John-Paul: Sainthood for the man who presided over these crimes!! This is just UNBELIEVABLE.</p>
<p>So now is just as good a time as any, following last night Front Line program (21st Dec). In it we saw our friend Michael O&#8217;Brien calling on the Church, the State and the Law to get together once and for all and sort it all out. Regretfully, the Main Factor in this equation &#8211; the main ingredient in this recipe for Disaster, is still missing, as blatantly and obviously AS EVER since the Ryan Report: and that is THE IRISH PEOPLE. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF IRELAND. Who would have thought that Nothing Was Going to Change 6 months ago? Please don&#8217;t tell me &#8220;There is such Outrage&#8221;&#8230;. Then there was that elderly priest on the show who welcomed the present crisis in the Church, saying that the old ways were gone and a new Church was to emerge: and How? He said he didn&#8217;t know, and would have to take his cue from the Victims on the panel (Michael and the lady in the audience)&#8230;. So: THERE was a man who had not Heard, not Felt and not Understoood a thing since May and had no capacity for Compassion. And HE was the most and best-intentioned we had heard so far&#8230;. </p>
<p>I used to believe that Religions, were the cause of all wars and evil. I see now that the real culprit is the GOD-THING itself. For 2010, I would like to see the Papal Cross torn down from the Phoenix Park.</p>
<p>And to all the Victims, I want to extend my Unconditional Sympathy, and Condemnation of the Crimes perpetrated against them; all these years ago, and DAILY STILL in all the ways that our Society is failing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen O'Malley, "Childhood Interrupted".</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen O'Malley, "Childhood Interrupted".</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pope as leader of the Catholic Church is very aware of the situation in Ireland.  He like his followers have chosen to ignore this unimportant situation for how many years now?. They believed it would all go away with a few prayers.  Wrong.
Survirors could perhaps use their energy more wisely by electing their chosen Group Leaders, then dealing with the Irish Government, who would act on behalf of the Survivors with no more secret deals.
The Religious have always been masters in transfering guilt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pope as leader of the Catholic Church is very aware of the situation in Ireland.  He like his followers have chosen to ignore this unimportant situation for how many years now?. They believed it would all go away with a few prayers.  Wrong.<br />
Survirors could perhaps use their energy more wisely by electing their chosen Group Leaders, then dealing with the Irish Government, who would act on behalf of the Survivors with no more secret deals.<br />
The Religious have always been masters in transfering guilt.</p>
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		<title>By: crispina</title>
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		<dc:creator>crispina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In return I hope you&#039;ll be able to share at least a good appreciating grin over a Dublin priest and  John Kelly, from Irish Survivors of Child Abuse as well :-)


Friday December 18 2009

Catholics are being urged to send a Christmas message to the Pope demanding he take action over the country&#039;s child abuse scandal.

A survivor of institutional abuse revealed he will be using a new online service launched by the Vatican to demand the Pontiff reform the church and apologise to the people of Ireland.

John Kelly, from Irish Survivors of Child Abuse, believes few Irish Catholics will be sending goodwill greetings through the internet.

&quot;The victims of abuse and many Irish people feel deeply let down,&quot; said Mr Kelly.

&quot;I will be saying &#039;Your Holiness, Please show me leadership, please intervene in what&#039;s going on in the Irish Catholic Church and please remove those princes of the Irish Catholic Church whose behaviour has to be questioned&#039;.&quot;

Mr Kelly said he will also demand that a motion is set to reform the Catholic Church and visit Ireland to apologise and seek forgiveness.

The initiative was unveiled by Monsignor Paul Tighe, a Dublin priest who was promoted to become one of the Vatican&#039;s most senior media advisers two years ago.

The service allows web surfers to send online Christmas greetings to Pope Benedict XVI through the Pope2You portal, which is run by the Vatican&#039;s Pontifical Council for Social Communications.

Maeve Lewis, of support group One In Four, said the number of victims seeking help has escalated since the publication of two damning reports into clerical abuse.

&quot;I would urge Irish Catholics to send a card to the Pope, but in it to express the distress, anger and frustration so many devout Catholics feel at the findings of the Dublin Report and the wholly inadequate response of the Irish hierarchy and the Vatican to it,&quot; she added.

Press Association

(   http://www.pope2you.net/index.php?id_testi=11  )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In return I hope you&#8217;ll be able to share at least a good appreciating grin over a Dublin priest and  John Kelly, from Irish Survivors of Child Abuse as well :-)</p>
<p>Friday December 18 2009</p>
<p>Catholics are being urged to send a Christmas message to the Pope demanding he take action over the country&#8217;s child abuse scandal.</p>
<p>A survivor of institutional abuse revealed he will be using a new online service launched by the Vatican to demand the Pontiff reform the church and apologise to the people of Ireland.</p>
<p>John Kelly, from Irish Survivors of Child Abuse, believes few Irish Catholics will be sending goodwill greetings through the internet.</p>
<p>&#8220;The victims of abuse and many Irish people feel deeply let down,&#8221; said Mr Kelly.</p>
<p>&#8220;I will be saying &#8216;Your Holiness, Please show me leadership, please intervene in what&#8217;s going on in the Irish Catholic Church and please remove those princes of the Irish Catholic Church whose behaviour has to be questioned&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Kelly said he will also demand that a motion is set to reform the Catholic Church and visit Ireland to apologise and seek forgiveness.</p>
<p>The initiative was unveiled by Monsignor Paul Tighe, a Dublin priest who was promoted to become one of the Vatican&#8217;s most senior media advisers two years ago.</p>
<p>The service allows web surfers to send online Christmas greetings to Pope Benedict XVI through the Pope2You portal, which is run by the Vatican&#8217;s Pontifical Council for Social Communications.</p>
<p>Maeve Lewis, of support group One In Four, said the number of victims seeking help has escalated since the publication of two damning reports into clerical abuse.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would urge Irish Catholics to send a card to the Pope, but in it to express the distress, anger and frustration so many devout Catholics feel at the findings of the Dublin Report and the wholly inadequate response of the Irish hierarchy and the Vatican to it,&#8221; she added.</p>
<p>Press Association</p>
<p>(   <a href="http://www.pope2you.net/index.php?id_testi=11" rel="nofollow">http://www.pope2you.net/index.php?id_testi=11</a>  )</p>
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		<title>By: crispina</title>
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		<dc:creator>crispina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Martha, for a real good laugh.
Isn&#039;t it great that -fully insane - human ability ours to believe? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Martha, for a real good laugh.<br />
Isn&#8217;t it great that -fully insane &#8211; human ability ours to believe? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Raftery says:  

&quot;... in his own mind at least, the bishop now views himself as a sacrificial lamb, a martyr for the greater good of the Roman Catholic Church.&quot;

Isn&#039;t that what being a &#039;Good Catholic&#039; (bishop or not) is all about?

Normal people (adults) with all their human faults and failings, don&#039;t dedicate their one and only precious life to total strangers, i.e., people who know nothing about them and care less about them.

Only the totally moronic or the totally mad are THAT egotistical, ie., INSANE!

I admire Mary Raftery, but I think she&#039;s wasting too much of her time and energy (her life) trying to prove these mad Catholic bishops, and their followers, are wrong.  She knows they have done wrong, as I and many others do too - but they will NEVER admit to their &quot;sins&quot;!  So why waste one&#039;s precious life arguing with such horrible wrong-doers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Raftery says:  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; in his own mind at least, the bishop now views himself as a sacrificial lamb, a martyr for the greater good of the Roman Catholic Church.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that what being a &#8216;Good Catholic&#8217; (bishop or not) is all about?</p>
<p>Normal people (adults) with all their human faults and failings, don&#8217;t dedicate their one and only precious life to total strangers, i.e., people who know nothing about them and care less about them.</p>
<p>Only the totally moronic or the totally mad are THAT egotistical, ie., INSANE!</p>
<p>I admire Mary Raftery, but I think she&#8217;s wasting too much of her time and energy (her life) trying to prove these mad Catholic bishops, and their followers, are wrong.  She knows they have done wrong, as I and many others do too &#8211; but they will NEVER admit to their &#8220;sins&#8221;!  So why waste one&#8217;s precious life arguing with such horrible wrong-doers?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles O'Rourke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again Mary delivers a crushing analysis of the warped mental landscape these bishops live in. It&#039;s breathtaking to read&quot; If I did any wrong I would resign, I don&#039;t believe I did any wrong, Therefore it would be wrong of me to resign. There you have it in black and white. The children don&#039;t matter, the truth does not matter, only the &quot;good of the church&quot; and the good of himself. How can these dwarfs of men sway so much power over the lives of millions of Irish people?. Is there any way of ridding Ireland of these psychopaths?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again Mary delivers a crushing analysis of the warped mental landscape these bishops live in. It&#8217;s breathtaking to read&#8221; If I did any wrong I would resign, I don&#8217;t believe I did any wrong, Therefore it would be wrong of me to resign. There you have it in black and white. The children don&#8217;t matter, the truth does not matter, only the &#8220;good of the church&#8221; and the good of himself. How can these dwarfs of men sway so much power over the lives of millions of Irish people?. Is there any way of ridding Ireland of these psychopaths?.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Dowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Dowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paddy, just tell Mary Raftery how much I admire her.  Keep it up Mary, you&#039;re a powerful bit of stuff! Thanks for your clarity of thought and total awareness - God bless you girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paddy, just tell Mary Raftery how much I admire her.  Keep it up Mary, you&#8217;re a powerful bit of stuff! Thanks for your clarity of thought and total awareness &#8211; God bless you girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Portia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Portia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bishop calls to pray for them.&quot;

That has to be the joke of the Universe Paddy.

Who shall we pray to.? The same &quot;God&quot; that the Catholic Cult worships? I do not think so.

&quot;a martyr for the greater good of the Roman Catholic Church.&quot;

Once again Paddy - we see the brainwashing of the people where they are expected to believe the bishop is a martyr and will in some way be rewarded by the cruel &quot;God&quot; the cult worships.

Notice also the cognitive projection of the Bishop&#039;s own guilt onto the people.

Talk about twisting words to suit their own purpose.

&quot; “the good of the church”- oh yes, it is always the good of the church like Hitler and the good of the Motherland- same old tune.

What is the church exactly????

Yes, it is a corporation- a business- making a profit from the misery of human beings- and a deliberately created misery at that, because without our pain, suffering and misery, the Patriarchal church is out of business.

Every war on this planet was fought in the name of this God.

Every child who was abused was abused in the name of this God.

Strange that no one has ever seen this &quot;God&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bishop calls to pray for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>That has to be the joke of the Universe Paddy.</p>
<p>Who shall we pray to.? The same &#8220;God&#8221; that the Catholic Cult worships? I do not think so.</p>
<p>&#8220;a martyr for the greater good of the Roman Catholic Church.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once again Paddy &#8211; we see the brainwashing of the people where they are expected to believe the bishop is a martyr and will in some way be rewarded by the cruel &#8220;God&#8221; the cult worships.</p>
<p>Notice also the cognitive projection of the Bishop&#8217;s own guilt onto the people.</p>
<p>Talk about twisting words to suit their own purpose.</p>
<p>&#8221; “the good of the church”- oh yes, it is always the good of the church like Hitler and the good of the Motherland- same old tune.</p>
<p>What is the church exactly????</p>
<p>Yes, it is a corporation- a business- making a profit from the misery of human beings- and a deliberately created misery at that, because without our pain, suffering and misery, the Patriarchal church is out of business.</p>
<p>Every war on this planet was fought in the name of this God.</p>
<p>Every child who was abused was abused in the name of this God.</p>
<p>Strange that no one has ever seen this &#8220;God&#8221;.</p>
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