Conor McMorrow and Shane Coleman
THE religious orders’ final offer to cover the cost of the residential institutional abuse scandal is more than €200m short of the contribution the government wants it to pay, the Sunday Tribune can reveal.
The orders, which were heavily criticised in the Ryan report, have made a final offer totalling €348m, more than €200m less than what is required to ensure a 50:50 contribution from church and state.
The final bill is expected to reach €1.36bn.
Department of Education officials told the government during a briefing last Tuesday that 16 of the 18 religious orders criticised in the report have made offers of further contributions to the state.
The Sunday Tribune has learned that the final €348m offer is made up of €235m in property transfers to the state, a further €111m in cash payments to be paid over five years and a €2m waiver of rents owed by the state to the orders.
This will bring the total contribution from the orders to €476m which is just over a third of the likely final bill.
While this is a substantial improvement on the initial €128m agreed as part of the controversial indemnity agreed between the church and the government in 2002, it will not satisfy those who argue the orders should foot at least 50% of the overall €1.36bn cost.
The cabinet now has to decide whether it should sign off on this offer or seek a further €200m from the Orders to bring the split up to 50:50.
It will also be looking closely at the property portfolio offered by the orders to assess their value and usefulness. It is likely to look for cash or alternative property if some of the properties do not meet the valuations that the orders have placed on them.
The overall cost of the response to residential institutional abuse scandal is now estimated to exceed €1.36bn. This is made up of the €126m cost of the Ryan commission, the €1.1bn cost of the Redress Board, €10m for indemnity counselling, €12.7m for the Education Finance Board, a body set up to provide education for victims, and a further €110m for a proposed victims’ fund.
February 21, 2010
The Sunday Tribune.
Christy – I love to laugh out loud and you gave me a good laugh tonight for which I thank you!
Angry, Charles, Raymond – your words are beautifully crafted as I am sure you all are!
Get your minds out of the gutter – I meant the mental physiology of you! – Jeez, I give up, I really do!
Anne – when we get off the ground you won’t ever feel alone again – ever! I promise you that! You are not alone now, your brothers and sisters are fighting this fight for all of us. All for one and one for all!
Barry, you’ve been inside our heads, minds and hearts and that is soooooooooo scary! You mask your pain so cleverly! What is that parting shot of yours … Never give up!
It’s all the way one hold one hat as far as I know. All suggestions welcome. Paddy
Thankyou Hanora for your kind words.
Keep strong everyone and see you at the March!!
Take care,
Anne..x
Hi Paddy. There is a meeting in London Camden Irish centre Camden square 6th march 12pm till 3 pm Christine Buckley guest speaker and Mary Murphy also !to elect a committee and talk of a coalition of survivors groups news to us here in Manchester !this is the first we have heard of it again decisions made on our behalf is anyone out there going? I cannot make it but would like to know what is going on?
As I’m in Ireland I don’t know a lot about this meeting other than what I’ve heard from the organisers of same. I’m sorry I can’t be of more help. What I can say is that I’m fairly certain there isn’t any danger of a coalition taking place. Paddy/
“life Vale”, “Life Assurance”, “actuarial”
relate to value of life,insurance/assurance terms within a huge industry of valuation of life.
Just in case you were kidnapped or something similar and missed your life, this actuarial profession ( thousands of them in London alone) can help you to assess life damage. The insurance policies are written in London as they always were.
I wanted to have a family and children and an ordinary life. My trades and skills were obtained after I was expelled, then I had to educate myself, actually the Brits took me in arms. Now I have nightmares and Multiple severe PTSD and severe pain and tour the world as a ‘loner’ unwanted by most. 35 years walking the streets now.
Soon my case is in court and 60K euro, 600K Euro and 6 million, its absolutely no replacement for my chance on earth to have an ordinary life, an ordinary chance un interfered by paedophiles.
Blood, money or emotion, I’ll take blood or emotion in preference to money.
If you read this email, be guaranteed that ordinary people in Ireland who are victims of clerics are absolutely not ordinary and that you have many, many supporters in many countries who are just delighted to assist against the abominable crimes of the clerics.
I hope Mrs Buckley will Not claim expenses for her Trip to London, if she wants to go to London she should pay out of her own pocket if I want to go to London or anywhere I’d have to fund it myself. She does not represent all survivors only those and her group at the Jarvis centre. I hope my name is NOT on her list for funding as I have NEVER been there.