The Irish Times – Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Fr TOM DOYLE

RITE & REASON: THE REPORT on the apostolic visitation reflects an exercise in irrelevancy. The visitors listened but did they hear? The report includes the standard apologies, blame for the bishops and religious superiors, and praise for all the church has done in digging into the clerical culture to determine why the horrendous epidemic occurred.

But in reality, they looked for excuses rather than explanations. This “crisis” is not primarily about sexual molestation. It’s about the obsession with power and the corruption and stagnation of the clerical culture.

The visitors were not about to pierce the protective veil that covers the institutional church, a veil that hides the reason the clericalised church is unravelling and the communion between bishops and people is ruptured. The total lack of accountability by the authoritarian model of the church is the root of the crisis.

The Irish people didn’t deserve the insulting claim that the “shortcomings of the past” caused an inadequate understanding of the “terrible phenomenon of the abuse of minors”. The people named the causes head on: the secretive clerical culture, the lopsided theology of sexuality, seminary training disconnected from reality and the “church’s” obsession with control.

These are not the shortcomings of the past. They are the deadly symptoms of the present. A typical Vatican response to a complex problem it can’t understand is imposing structures that change the surface appearance while the core continues to deteriorate. It’s like trying to solve a hardware problem with a software solution.

The outrageous assertion that the bishops and religious superiors gave “much” spiritual and psychological help to victims is followed by a recommendation that they meet with and listen to victims. That this has to be recommended is a pathetic indictment of their lack of pastoral care. If the leadership’s first concern had been the victims and not the church’s image and power, the course of recent Catholic history in Ireland would have been dramatically different.

The visitation of the seminaries avoided the real issue: can priests be prepared to serve in the real world after years of formation in an unreal world? The superficial recommendations try to recapture a seminary culture that inculcated the toxic belief that priests are apart from others because of their exalted “calling”. Survivors know too well this attitude is a major part of the problem.

The second half of the report tells the real story. The agenda is not that of the victims. The true goal is rescuing the Irish clerical institution from its descent into irrelevance by imposing a return to the model of church as monarchy. The “renewed call to communion” is a thinly covered call to docile, unthinking submission.

Catholics in Ireland are walking away not because they need a “deeper formation in the content of the faith” but because they no longer equate faith in God with childish obedience to a clerical establishment that feeds on control.

The younger generation needs the new ecclesial movements as much as a duck hunter needs an accordion. These are nothing more than agents for the return to a model of church dominated by clerical control where intellectual creativity and theological self-determination are anathema.

The abominable legacy of abuse in the Irish church has nothing to do with orthodoxy and fidelity to the pope. It has everything to do with a destructive clerical culture that sacrificed the innocence of children for the distorted image and power of the hierarchy.

The visitors could not delve into the core issue because to do so would have meant recognition of the dark side of the institutional church. The solutions offered – obedience to the hierarchy and lock-step assent to doctrine – are irrelevant and an insult to the victims whose lives were shattered because of this very model of church.

The words and actions of Archbishop Diarmuid Martin – and Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s laser-sharp assessment of the Vatican culture in his speech to the Dáil last July – are proof the real church in Ireland has accurately assessed the situation. The Vatican could have made unprecedented progress in restoring the church’s image by listening and learning.

Fr Thomas Doyle is an American Dominican priest and canon lawyer. He has served as an expert witness in a number of civil cases involving clergy sexual abuse before the Irish courts. He was also an expert witness/consultant to the Ferns and Ryan commissions.

 

32 Responses to “Vatican report attempts mere excuse not explanation”

  1. A message to the Vatican attention of Herr Ratzinger formerly of Herr Hitlers Stormtroopers.You hail from a Country that is guilty of crimes without comparison. Being part of a organistation, whose henchmen in just one campaign, annihilated almost 8 million Soviet Russians. Well my fellow Irish Victims, what else could have we expect from these pigs, but a grunt. Herr Ratzinger, you and your debauched retinue, will meet your fates at the hands of their Asiatic decendants, who in return, will ignore your futile cry for clemency. Although you repeatedly ignore our pleas, nothing can alter the Ugly Truth of Vatican victims assertions, toward you and your Debauched Irish agents regarding terrible against us, even as infants or as very young innocents. We are vexed survivors of a shameful coalition of a unrepented Vatican Popery and an Irish Catholic Falange. Herr Ratzinger, some (100) one hundred years after you and your stones demise. Your kind will attempt, to resurrect your hell on earth, to no avail. So strong, will very the voice of our decendants, that the people will rise up and cast them out. Your legacy to us, of cruelty, lies and murderous deception, will for a very long time be associated, the Vatican and you many Agencies, throughout this plant, especially, the Irish Catholic Church. Cuir anshoh id doh piopa. Twisted Oliver.

  2. Dear Fellow Victims, the last time the dread of ruin came to the Vatican, was firstly when the WW2 British General Montgomery defeated Italian army in Libya. Germany occupied Rome and was concerned that the Allies would destroy Rome and after the war his Nazi friends would have nowhere to run or hide. Fellow Victims, let me assure at the end of their dreaded ruin fears, it will actually happen. Read the following prophecy that this very website and all the Issues Paddy Doyle has raised against all of our Persecutors, eerie though it may be. :- O mighty Rome dread ruin comes again. Not to your Walls, but to your living part. Hurt you shall be, by words of Harsh Disdain.(scorn). Whose sword (mighty pen) shall pierce your very Heart.

    This very accurate is about all of we Victims and all the wonderous people who regularly subscribe to this excellent voice of we Victims site. Crashing mumbo jumbo sermons at the Trading in the Temple (God forsaken churches) of the Vatican Irish Agents. Penned over 460 years ago by Medical Practioner & Superb Astrologer Michel Nostradamus. Wow ! And I have most of his recorded prophecies, & so many like this one in now. This prophesy tells of the power of writing. So please keep writing, Over the years I’ve sent my story all over the world. I won’t give up until our persecutors have varnished. Thank you for reading this. Keep writing. Twisted Oliver.

  3. Dear fellow victims of Vatican and Their Irih Catholic Agents:- be it known tshat there is absolute panic on account of Pope B being unable to give a direct and honest answer to we the stolen enslaved and distressingly abused Victims of the Vatican and their Irish Agents. Not to forget our estranged family and their suffering, at being forcefully separated from we their kin. It is now generally accepted that Pope B has been promoted right through the clerical ranks through support from Pope Pious an friend & supporter of Adolf Hitler. Pope B has been a member of the Hitler Youth & destined for a commission in the notorious SS. He as adujtant to the previous Pope John Paul XX111, selected his entourage long ago for his rigged election to Pope B. Dissenters would have been bought off or met a sticky end, in some remote corner of the Vatican, being a sovereign state. He would also have total control over all movements of the Ops Dei, the militant wing of the Vatican. His background in the Hitler Youth is not openly disscussed. Food for thought fellow Victims. Twisted Oliver

  4. Dear Pauline, a very good asessment of our ex slavers modus operandi. The perfect solution in the eyes of their stupid patrons. However, we the victims know these two faced liars with their deceptive rhetoric and that this is designed to make them look and sound as though they are upon the path to redressing their “past mistakes” that are dressed up, as errors of judgement. Pauline and all we victims of this terribly cruel misleading Vatican & their Irish Agents, words are cheap and proper actions speak much louder than words. In all Vatican roads, will lead to a bloody hell. Hurry up! Twisted Oliver.

  5. We are not speaking the same way as the church . We are asking for the damage done by answered for . the Church are offering rituals. Such as thier public prayers and such.But the rituals only mean something to the Catholic church goers. For all the lapsed catholics it doesnt mean anything.

  6. Dear Fellow Victims and Ardent Anti-Vatican Groups. Here Is A News Scoop : The Pope Has Offered His Resignation To The College Of Cardinals, Due To His Failed Campaign To Whitewash Our Claims Of Abuse, Whilst In The “CARE” Of Their Agents, In The Various Prison Convets and Prison Schools. Wben He Stands Down, A New Pope Will Be Elected, And There Will Be Two Vicars Of Christ. Firstly, Let Us Look At The Nostradamus and The 11th Century Irish Bishops’ History Of The Popes To Date , And Only One Will Ever Resign, Due To Victims Like Us, This Site And All Those Wonderfull People Who Have Great Compassion For Our Kind. “All Of Our Letters, Have Pierced His “Heart”. (strange I did’nt believe he had one), Well, Pappa B, begone and let history take its course, hurry!! to your fate. Friends, Brothers & Sisters, this is a great time for our kind, though not a cure for our daily suffering and recurring ailments, this should ease our pInful memories, somewhat. He will eventually resign, in the meantime please keep writing, then my friends & fellow victims, there will be a horrific littany of strange and unusual events. Just imagine the present furore within the Vaticans unhallowed walls. Ohl would’nt you love to be, the provebial fly on the walls. TWISTED Oliver

  7. Dear Raymond, thank you for the kind thoughts, 14 years in Vatican “Care”and all the lies they told to my prospective emoloyers in England re my family & I were criminals, soured a very probable good start for me, with disasterous rusults, when trying to bond with my family, after such a long seperation. And I have to live with the terrible regret, that my mother would constantly greet me with smiles, hugs & kisses. I am now so sorry to say, that I felt absolutely nothing. I realise that I can’t turn back time, but I will destroy the Papacy, with the truth, as it will always prevail. Yes the Blue Mtns is a lovely place, you can grow almost anything here. But my heart is elsewhere. You have wonderfull sentiments Raymond, obviously Gods blessing is upon you. After that run in with Opus Dei, all those years ago, I changed my ID with Btitish approval, that set in motion, so many things with terrible psychological cosequences. I met some of my former Inmates, a few of them were brilliant in their field of work, most of it being of a military nature. It astounded me, how much the British education system, benefited Our Kind of Irish, if you were willing to grasp the opportunity, carpe diem was their motto. In Artane at 11yrs of age, I taught my self practical and theoretical electronics, in reality no thanks to our Jailors. I even stole text books from rooms and even from the House Kitchen (unChristian Bros Area). Being such a skinny little fellow (could even hide behind a broom handle) so the said. Slipped past night watchmen, in middle of the night. Powered my little torch, with an electrolytic (polarised) capacitor, that I “borrowed” from Bro “Lamper” O’ Connors Blacksmiths Dept. That my friend, in essence was the first Irish rechargable battery. Raymond and all Victims, hope you bave a good life, as Easter is a very disturbing time for a lot Artaners and other Victims. Twisted Oliver.

  8. Raymond says:

    Sorry again Oliver you had to endure such torture.

    Some consolation I hope that your are in the Blue Mountains of Australia and that there may be some peace in your life.

    I couldn’t help but remember the wonderful recent film “Oranges and Sunshine”.

    You sign ‘twisted’ Oliver: please don’t let IT get the better of you and overcome your health. DAMN THEM ALL – so this Easter holy day will not have been in vain – and be showered with blessings and happiness. Good on you!

  9. Dear Brothers & Sisters of the Irish Institutions, also readers and writers of site, anything you can remember from your time in these terrible places or even some family member, would be of great interest to our kind. Everyone should know what our kind, were subjected to. In addition to almost unspeakable abuse, our Vatican sponsored Masters publicised our kind as “SCUM”. We were certainly treated as such. To unfortunately look healthy or to have good looks, increased your chances of sexual abuse, by our “carers”. It seems that most of the prison Convents & prison School Victims suffered similar fates. And the common denominator is, the EX rulers of Ireland, being the Vatican and its Agent, the Irish Catholic Sodomites Association. Whatever you do, don’t let them wash your feet. Who knows what this could lead to. These types of tricks were used in the Institutions. Your chat to your Confessor earned you names like, “You Dirty Thing”. Privicy my ass. I recall “dodging” the confessional box for many months, and was reminded by Discipliarian Doody to attend. So I told a lot of “good” lies , good thoughts, good deeds, asking for my catholic superiors to be blessed, for their guidance of all the children. The following day, I was greeted with smiles from my various persecutors. What a sham.! Oliver.

  10. Dear Paddy Doyle, sorry about the first article, it is not complete. It is Easter, got a bit upset & pushed wrong key. The second submission is OK , though far from finalised, that will never be finalised, even when our kind are long gone. The truth will always prevail. We the Victims, suffer quite a varied number of Maladies, inflicted by our “Carers”. From severe mental to severe physical problems. No Victim, got away scott free. regards Olivere

  11. Dear Raymond, and all who pen their hatred and all who read our ugly truths, who also share this awful fate as victims of great suffering in those child prisons. Each Easter, Summer Holidays and Especially Christmas, is when you hurt inside, the most. Asking ourselves, amidst the tears, where is Our God, my family. Why can some of my friends go home?. The terrible lonliness, when you are but one of a handful left behind, still slaving. Then you almost choke upon the emotion, then sob uncontrollaby in full view of everyone. That is something all of these funded mouthpieces of us “The Victims” have never known and could never comprehend. How many times have we the Victims of this Vatican child abducting prison system, have asked ourselves this question: Where is my family, Why are we treated like common criminals? What Crime/s are we guilty of? to receive sentences of up to fourteen (14) years. Of which an average of SIX and A HALF YEARS were Hard Labour. Most of us were almost starved, worked beyond endurance for our tender ages, being from 9 years of age in the Prison schools. Although most of us started sork in the prison Convents at 5 years of age, in Kitchens, Poultry Farms, General Cleaning, Gardening. In the Prison Schools, illness as a result of starvation was commonplace. How many of us would search for a juicy blade of grass or some leaves, to stave of the hunger pangs, even apple seeds were of crab apples were devoured. Yes Pauline, the worst part of the ugly truth is, that we are the products of our Vatican Jailors. We are their Children. Who could know them better than us. Even after being dumped at 16 years of age, in the street, or in some halway house, or placed in work on a farm or in the “care”of some shady employer, upaid work, sleeping in a damp outhouse or barn with the animals is the best that our ex Slave Masters, were willing to do for us. If this was too much to bear, then it was homlessness in one of the Irish Cities. And if the (police) Garda picked you up for Vagrancy, then it was Dangen Prison, a death sentence for the males of our kind. We, at 16 years of age were no match for the hardened criminals of Dangen Adult Prison, or anything similar in reputation. Shame on that terrible Vatican, shame upon a people and a system, that turned a blind eye to the plight of so so many innocent children, whose families, were destroyed, some of our kind, starved to death, beaten to death, or died a lingering death from their injuries, or disease. The police (Garda) only had to record the death of our kind, and not the cause, which in some cases was plain Murder..
    Why did the Ahearn Government, allow the Church to churn up the victims graveyard (remains) mix with concrete. This was the Artane Prison School graveyard in Kilmore Road, Artane , Dublin. It is now a MacDonalds fastfood outlet and Carpark. A fitting end for our kind, what say you my brothers and sisters. Yes, we should get together, maybe soon and for now, reply, respond to every article upon this site or any rubbish that our Master Carers care to throw at us. I live in The Blue Mountains, about 80klmtrs west of Sydney, Australia. And the bad news for the Catholic Church is, that I have stopped running since 2006, and have dug my heels in, for this and future battles with my Vatican Enemies. Come what may. Twisted Oliver.

  12. Dear Raymond, and all who pen their hatred and all who read our ugly truths, who also share this awful fate as victims of great suffering in those child prisons. Each Easter, Summer Holidays and Especially Christmas, is when you hurt inside, the most. Asking ourselves, amidst the tears, where is Our God, my family. Why can some of my friends go home?. The terrible lonliness, when you are but one of a handful left behind, still slaving. Then you almost choke upon the emotion, then sob uncontrollaby in full view of everyone. That is something all of these funded mouthpieces of us “The Victims” have never known and could never comprehend. How many times have we the Victims of this Vatican child abducting prison system, have asked ourselves this question: Where is my family, Why are we treated like common criminals? What Crime/s are we guilty of? to receive sentences of up to fourteen (14) years. Of which an average of SIX and A HALF YEARS were Hard Labour. Most of us were almost starved, worked beyond endurance for our tender ages, being from 9 years of age in the Prison schools. Although most of us started sork in the prison Convents at 5 years of age, in Kitchens, Poultry Farms, General Cleaning, Gardening. In the Prison Schools, illness as a result of starvation was commonplace. How many of us would search for juicy blax

  13. Contd teterrible question: What am I being held here for, with no freedom.? Why am I being treated this way, like a criminal.? What crime have I or have we committed.? What were we guilty of? In order to recieve sentences of up to 14 (Fourteen) years, with an average SIX and a HALF Years of this being Hard Labour. Most of us still ask ourselves, how the hell did we survive the constant beatings for minor infractions, the shocking hunger, very hard work, the very biting cold winters. Searching for a juicy blades of grass to eat. The painfull illnesses, as a resulst of all these atrocities. Some of our more unfortunate brothers and sisters, were sexually molested, that this additio.

  14. Dear Raymond, and all who pen their hatred and all who read our ugly truths, who also share this awful fate as victims of great suffering in those child prisons. Each Easter, Summer Holidays and Especially Christmas, is when you hurt inside, the most. Asking ourselves, amidst the tears, where is Our God, my family. Why can some of my friends go home?. The terrible lonliness, when you are but one of a handful left behind, still slaving. Then you almost choke upon the emotion, then sob uncontrollaby in full view of everyone. That is something all of these funded mouthpieces of us “The Victims” have never known and could never comprehend. How many times have we the Victims of this Vatican child abducting prison system, have asked ourselves this

  15. Dear Raymond and all of us that pen our hatred and to all who read also with their own horrific experiences, within those Vatican sponsored prisons. Yes we harbour a terrible hatred and “HATE helps to keep us ALIVE”. For most of us victims, Easter, Summer Holidays, and Christmas, are very disturbing times

  16. Raymond says:

    I TOTALLY agree with everything you say Oliver, and especially that “…who could know better than YOU the actual victims…”.

    As regards getting a reply: there are many many questions left UN-answered. This is what worries more.

    To all who benefit from reading on this website, I wish that you should have plenty of support, care and attention over the coming holidays; loving ears around you to HEAR your stories; and that you can meet with each other, with fellow-Survivors, in different Groups and Dedicated Meetings and Places; and if there aren’t many, or even enough of them, that you find the strength and inspiration to FORM such groups and get-together’s.

    But if you’d prefer to get away and sip some fine wine in the sunshine, then that you can afford that too.

    With Respect and as ever,
    ON YOUR SIDE.
    Raymond

  17. My dear fellow inmates, and all victims of Vatican brutality, as Easter is now upon us, spare a thought for Pope B, & ex apprenticed Hitler youth Stormtrooper as he lays the blame squarely at the feet of us victims. Easter Sunday, dressed in his SS uniform and goose stepping about the Vatican, probably advocating the Cruicifixion of dissident priests who write the truth about his crooked Church. It is very likely, that he may be the long awaited Antichrist, per the Bibical Revelation. His comment promoting a single worldwide currency, makes him one of the front runners for this title. Any Suggestions re this topic. Oliver

  18. Dear Raymond, at least you did get an answer. But what should disturb us as survivors of this autocratic Vatican, isthat there are too many “Companies” paid to write useless dribble on behalf of us. This much needed money should be put to better use. In reality who could know better than we the actual victims. Oliver

  19. Raymond says:

    Thank you for the information Micheál.

    Anybody else – better informed than me – care to comment?

  20. Micheál says:

    Hi Raymond,

    We were on the News last week because we had the first ever launch of an Annual Report.

    This allowed us the opportunity to show in greater clarity what the organisation has done since the New Board of Directors took over the organisation in late 2010. It also shows the numbers accessing our services, the reasons for it and some quotes and testimonials from Survivors that we have assisted.

    Additionally to this we included our financial statements and details and finally made recommendations based on our work with Survivors and their family members.

    I apologise about it not being placed on the website for all to view, (www.rightofplace.com)however can assure you this is a delay from the company who assisted us in designing the report, as they have not forwarded on the PDF copy. It will be up on our website in the next 24-48 hours, where you will be free to digest and comment on the information contained within it

    We felt it was best to place more info up, specifically regarding the news reports, when the report was available to be added also so as to give Survivors an opportunity to look at our info.

    Hope this helps clear up any confusion,

    Micheál

  21. Raymond says:

    Could somebody explain how? a group which is allegedly under investigation for misplacing of funds, namely Right of Place, was all over the news last week, talking about the proposed Trust Fund, and why the silence about it?

    On a more positive note: here is a film which might be helpful >>>
    http://www.bigvoicepictures.com/boys-and-men-healing/

  22. If the word forgive means anything at all it has to be sincere. well its a bit of a thorn to me. I dont agree that it would enable us to have a better image of ourselves. I dont go through life in hate of them. the nuns who were in charge then in the 50ths and early 60ths are old now and i dont think of them a lot. but future children should never be treated in that way. The church were very hard masters. If the methods dont change its generations of disturbed people that will be coming. Fear of the rules imposed on people ruined many lives.

  23. Martha says:

    The author of this article, Fr. Tom Doyle, says:-

    “This “crisis” is not primarily about sexual molestation. It’s about the obsession with power and the corruption and stagnation of the clerical culture.”

    If the “crisis” is not primarily about the emotional violation of children, then what is it about?

    Why is he STILL a member of an organisation that thrives on the psychological abuse of children? Does he like wearing a “dog collar” ?

    Is Tom Doyle angry that he was deprived of a normal (non-religious/RC) childhood?

  24. My fellow Survivors, to put in a nutshell, IF There Is No CONTRITION upon the part of The Vatican and IRISH Chuch Hierachy, including the various Orders. Who were our prison warders, why should we forgive. Oliver.

  25. Dear Raymond, true the church were the receipients the blood money, from a Vatican controlled Republican State. The various Church
    Orders, Brothers, Nuns etc., would squabble amongst themselves to get the lions share of the booty, ((us)). Fuelled by local church gossips,priestly caste and social workers, sometimes police became involved and escorted, the victims,to their selected hell. Let us hear your stories. Lets write, as the modern pen is very mighty. Oliver.

    , to their respective hell.

    For most of us, it was hell on this earth. Well , where are the rest of the Victims, speak up,Have your Say. We want to hear from you, What you went through, DON’T GET ANGRY, LET’S GET EVEN. We Are In Reality, related, as victims of that Terrible cruel Vatican and a very FOREIGN CHURCH. We were the victims of terrible de eipt, awful cruelty, deprivation, hunger, poorly clothed, experimental guinea pigs, worked to the limits & beyond, to keep our Churchly Masters in Libidious luxery. So please, let’s hear from the rest of us, our blood brothers and sisters, in captive slavery. Oliver.

  26. Raymond says:

    Yes, a good and welcome letter – except that I don’t buy that […the real church in Ireland has accurately assessed the situation…] Far from it. And also, don’t even SAY, that […this “crisis” is not primarily about sexual molestation ] and treat these horrendous crimes as if they were ‘by-products’ of a flawed system.

    The SILENCE of the Priests, Brothers and Sisters in Ireland has been DEAFENING. STAND UP – SPEAK OUT – DENOUNCE and REVOLT against the Vatican, as otherwise a hell awaits you like none even described until now.

  27. Dear Pauline and FXR thank you so much for your informative replies. I obviously penned those words in a moment of weakness. True, our aim should be to rid this planet of this unjust, cruel Vatican dictatorship. Most of the survivors (we) have spent most of our lives concealing our past. Each time a partner and family would ask, where in Ireland do you come from, the temperature rose, my palms sweaty, mental disassociation, take a few gulps of anything to ease the anguish of the brutal recollections in “CARE”. Pack my few belongiings in my well worn suitcase and moved on. It was so well rehearsed, it happened at least 65 times. Having a criminal record, registered in the Carlow court at under 3 years, in defence of my pregnant mother, should a good reason for not forgiving. Thank you both, for reminding me. I will maintain the rage of the just. And try and ensure the eradication of the Vatican vermin and their partners in crime. Oliver

  28. I woudnt worry about forgiving. We were brought up by the nuns and priests. What we have become is all thanks to the church and succesive governments.The pope seems to be addressing these questions as if it wasent the church who were responsable. But the rest of society. its about abuse in several different forms coverded up by this present pope under the pretence of a working document.He has had years now to act but he wont look into it . He has been raised so high that he beieves himsef and expects others to act as if thay do too.

  29. FXR says:

    To forgive is to forget: the Catholic Church Limited should never have the benefit of either.

  30. Well, Paddy Doyle, what a coup for the Victims. This article by Fr Thomas Doyle is fantastic, as it openly displays the stupid arrogance of the Papacy and the unholy see. As the infallable hierachy are more wrapped in their grandiose titles rather than representing our God and Creator. Their priority is how the “faithful” address them, Eminence, Lord Bishop, Holiness, prefixed with my or your. Let me tell Your Ass, that our God and Creator has long since vacated Your almost empty churches and stands outside, eavesdropping on the idle gossip and the trading in the temple by most of the remaining hypocrites. At least, when I as a surviving victim of 14 yrs imprisonment from under THREE YEARS OF AGE,sent my story to Enda Kenny, like many others, he delivered a heavy blow to our persecuting master slavers. God Bless Paddy Doyle for his internet site, Fr Thomas Doyle for writing gift and courage and our great Celtic Chieftain Enda Kenny for denting our Jailors armour. I hope one day, that we may learn to fogive our persecutors, but that we, NEVER FORGET. Twisted Oliver.

  31. the church dident deal with things because thay thought thay could still hide behind religion. People have to look out for any signs of fear in thier kids. The pope had years and years to STOP abusers and he made his choice. Protent the Church and let the victims sign arrangments of silence. there is no change at all except in numbers. less priests. in such a small country there isint that much need. as for exporting pedophiles well. there is no outward sign.

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