One of the country’s leading summer schools is to honour victims of clerical child abuse.
The Humbert Summer Schoolin Co Mayo will also give commemorative awards to investigative journalist Mary Raftery, who helped uncover the scale of the scandal in institutions and Judge Sean Ryan who headed the long-running inquiry into church and state run schools and reformatories.
The awards will be presented by Nobel Peace Laureate and school president, John Hume, during a day-long debate on child protection.
Humbert School director John Cooney said the honour will mark contributions of the Commission, the long hard campaign of survivors to have their testimonies believed and Ms Raffery’s documentaries which alerted the public to the extent of child abuse.
Leading campaigner Christine Buckley has been asked to consult with the Survivors of Institutional Abuse to select a representative to receive the award.
The School, which runs from August 20-23, will also host several debates on the subject including “The Catholic Church post Ryan Commission”, with a panel of mainly religious speakers; “The Irish State post-Ryan”; and “How the media ‘outed’ the Abuse Scandals.”
Kathleen, I would strongly urge you to steer clear of survivor group leaders as my recent experiences have left me reeling! They are monstrously abusive, arrogant, and defrauding Survivors big time and being funded by the Dept. of Health and Regional Health Boards. Yesterday, following a meeting in Cork one of the cttee members punched a man in the face, drew blood, drove off before the Gardai got there and nobody saving my self would do anything. Noel Barry continued to guzzle his pint at the bar (more than likely funded from the survivors’ fund also). They are true products of the institutions all right! They speak with forked tongues and compound the abuse meted out to us by our so called carers! Kathleen, you have been fairly warned. Should you need clarification or witness to these events, I have a goodly number that are now prepared to go on record!
At the risk of repeating myself (I live to live dangerously, i.e., take chances) Ireland is a DIVIDED nation. That is one half of the people of this small island of ours are “aginst” the other half. That’s what 800 years of colonialsation of a people does. And inevitably, its the larger half of the population that is (still) on the side of their Masters, or Makers. For example, more than 50% of the Irish people currently have private health insurance. In other words, they still believe that the people who run our Health system really do cae about their health. Lol! Now, that is what I call being REALLY fucked-up!!! I guess if you’re THAT scared you are going to grow a malignant tumour, or your heart valves are going to shrink to the size of an old man’s penis, whatever…
I’m SO glad my mother dumped me as an infant and that I didn’t land in a skip (read, Industrial School) but into the loving arms of an old woman who loved me, even though she was physically crippled herself. Had my die-hard Irish-Catholic mother kept me at home, I would be as mad (desensitised) as she was til the end of her days. Relatively speaking, I just got lucky, and so I ended up with a lot more sense than she did.
NB. My mother tried hard to talk with a posh accent, but she could never master it (for some reason…). Myself, on the other hand, has no problem “talking posh”. Its second nature to me! Yah!!! – as the late Princess Diana might say. I lived to tell the tale, she didn’t…
Personally I would say NO it is not Ethical, Most disturbing I would say. Do Judges have a panel like the Solicitors do? For instance The law Society to make a complaint to. I would love to know.
Unethical and wrong.
Portia wrote:-
“The state- HSE- still uses children as guinea pigs in various research projects- £££
and deems it all ethical as children in state care are “disposable children” and therefore not equal to other children.”
The HSE is made up of people who had no childhood, in other words, they are not normal adults – they are sociopathic people who ahe had no one to turn to when they were who were being traumatised – psychologically raped – as children!
That is what Ireland is: a nation of fucked-up RAPED CHILDREN!!!
Kathleen O’Malley asked that I put this post up on her behalf. I’m happy to do so.
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WOULD IT BE ETHICAL FOR A SERVING JUDGE TO ACCEPT AN AWARD FROM A GROUP OF JOURNALISTS HAVING CHAIRED AN INQUIRIE ON A VERY SENSITIVE ISSUE.
“TO BOOT AN UNFINISHED INVESTIGATION”.
KATE.
I agree with Ms Kathleen O’Malley on all points. It’s time now to take this forward
NOTHING ABOUT US WITHOUT US
“After all is said and done there is more said than done” The Magdalen Women should have access to the Redress Board and anything short of this is a total disgrace.
Lets have some action and less talk, a Mass Meeting should be set up in Birmingham for all those concerned, living in the UK.
Kathleen O’Malley has posted on this site that wishes her name be put forward as a Group Leader, so lets all get behind her and go for it.
Well said culchiewoman.
The Magdalen women and Protestant victims are deliberately excluded from Redress and restitution – the Magdalen women still lie in mass graves and while the religious orders hold these graves there’ll be no let up from us.
As the great Robert Frost said, we’ve “miles to before we sleep…” or, in this case, ‘celebrate’ or accept awards.
Who are these people who purport to speak for my mother or me without mandate? And in what delusional universe do any of these morons believe that the work is done and it’s time to hand around trophies? We have yet to acknowledge the countless victims of Ireland’s Magdalene Laundries, Protestant homes and other insitutions.
This is criminal beyond the extreme. I can’t speak for the others listed as ‘representing’ but I would hope that at least Mary Raftery has the good sense to decline her ‘honour’.
The house of hell at Letterfrack – originally told to Tuairim – a UCD group inquiring into child care institutions in Ireland. Tuairim ignored Noah’s statements. Forty-two years later UCD wish ride on the back of his pain, allied with people who wanted to keep us silent and unheard.
http://tinyurl.com/houseofhell
Let’s be serious here. The Irish (per se) are a VERY fucked-up people.
I am a middle aged mother and although I was born and reared in Catholic Ireland, in the 1950’s, I do not identify with my fellow Irish citizens. I have nice neighbours, most of whom would regard themselves as “middle-class”, but I do not regard them as true friends: they are handy in a crisis…which is a rare thing for me.
As far as I’m concerned, the vast majority of Irish people are psychologically screwed-up by their Roman Catholic hetitage, aka, childhood condtioning. That’s why I keep a safe distance from them. In other words, there is no difference between the mindset of the so-called Irish Middle Class and the Irish Poor: all they bothy both care about is money. As Sean O’Casey said: “You can take the poor out of the sewer, but you can’t take the sewer out of the people!” He was right.
Poverty is a state of mind.
If I and a few others can insist on attending meetings, have our say and afterwards be quoted ad verbatim by a member of the board, get pictures in the paper, clapped on the back, I can’t see what’s wrong with that. Minutes were taken so contact Fr. Mansergh for copies. Get up off your arses and do what we did!
If the school is honouring the victims- then why are others hogging the stage and having their egos fed?
What have any of them suffered?
Only those with real experience deserve to be honoured.
The rest need to be on their knees repenting for the collective misery caused to innocent children.
I still feel a cover up of the whole truth.
UCD and most universities knew and know all about child abuse, but you have to know the type of eugenics theories they INDOCTRINATE students with to get an idea of the insanity of it all.
To the Church, children are all born in sin and need to suffer…..not what Jesus taught of course, but Rome did.
The state- HSE- still uses children as guinea pigs in various research projects- £££
and deems it all ethical as children in state care are “disposable children” and therefore not equal to other children.
That equality stems from labelling the mothers of children in corporate care as being from the wrong gene pool.
The experiment conducted and documented was conducted to study the effects of children who were abused in care- in their adult lives etc.
It is all based on trauma and fear.
But still, I observe from UK that Irish sheeple still go to church and fill the baskets with money for Rome……that is what tells me how brainwashed the irish people are and how they do not give a dam about you abused human beings- selective memory is so handy.
UCD ought to be ashamed of themselves – but they won’t be – they’ll get their pictures in the papers and their mugs on TV and they can pat themselves on the back.
http://nothingaboutuswithoutus.blogs.ie/peter-tyrrell-forgotten-by-ucd/
I suppose for the sake of balance, fairness, justice and equality the Oblates and the Christian Brothers should be asked to share the stage with Mr. Walsh … that way this unholy trinity could represent those who fought tooth and nail against Laffoy, against Ryan and against the survivors who’s statements and suffering made the Child Commission Report possible.
I understand there are three nominees for this Award. Who makes this decision and when was the Vote taken. Allegedly only last Sunday this decision was made and I wonder how many Survivors knew of this, prior to this article appearing in this paper. I for one did not know.
This it would appear is a secret Society. It reminds me somewhat of the recent Garden Party when 14,500 (approx) Survivors attended the Redress Board, yet 150 tickets were distributed for this function allowing two persons per invitation.
I would like to put my name forward to work as a Group Leader, as in the U.K. LONDON WE ARE VERY POORLY REPRESENTED.
Kathleen O’Malley.
UCD now jumping aboard the abuse bandwagon.
Archbishop Mcquaid did send in priests to UCD to act as spies for him in the 1960s mainly to monitor a UCD think club!
Apparently the Papal Nuncio to Ireland in 1965 was alarmed by the radical thinking of graduates in the UCD Tuairim discussion club
I wonder if anyone at UCD ever heard of Peter Tyrrell? Peter was introduced to a group of writers called Tuairim, who accepted his account of brutality in Letterfrack as being truthful, but who did NOT include it in their reports on children’s institutions in Ireland.
In other words UCD had a first hand account of the brutality of the institutions managed by Religious Orders way back in the 1960s and decided to side with the Archbishop and cover the abuses up.
UCD should immediately stop feeding off our pain.
*FOOTNOTE* Peter Tyrrell immolated himself on Hampstead Heath in protest at his treatment by Tuairim.
How about the oldes survivor in Ireland to receive the award?